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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 12, 2007 16:18:10 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 7: 1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 12, 2007 16:21:02 GMT -5
I will come back to add however, you guys can begin the discussion without me. I want to focus on this part though:
"9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."
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Post by chosen on Nov 12, 2007 16:21:42 GMT -5
1 Corinthians 7: 1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. Amen! I have to add this, LOL ;D One of the Mothers from my church She is a widow and been single for years and we where talkin and She said " Lord I thank you for keeping my mind and my behind" ROFLOL She had me rolling. She is trully a testimony that God is sure enough a Keeper. Thank you Jesus! Love Jess
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 12, 2007 17:24:51 GMT -5
Lord I thank you for keeping my mind and my behind" LOL, Priceless! |
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Post by chosen on Nov 12, 2007 18:04:43 GMT -5
LOL I know I will never forget that for the rest of my life  |
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Post by stillfocused on Nov 13, 2007 2:10:33 GMT -5
Okay AWSOY..you make a valid point many do get married to for the sex. I believe that when you have "known" or should I tasted of the what at one time was taboo or forbidden..it's hard not to remember what it was like for those who are saved and are abstaining from sex. So someone tells you that " it's better to marry than to burn". And for those who have never tasted it seems that is a curiosity of what they are missing or have missed..because they are still virgins. It really makes one say I can't wait until I get married to have sex. And many couples are marrying just to have sex..and sadly that is the extend of their relationship.
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Post by chosen on Nov 13, 2007 2:16:35 GMT -5
Okay AWSOY..you make a valid point many do get married to for the sex. I believe that when you have "known" or should I tasted of the what at one time was taboo or forbidden..it's hard not to remember what it was like for those who are saved and are abstaining from sex. So someone tells you that " it's better to marry than to burn". And for those who have never tasted it seems that is a curiosity of what they are missing or have missed..because they are still virgins. It really makes one say I can't wait until I get married to have sex. And many couples are marrying just to have sex..and sadly that is the extend of their relationship. I also wanted to add to what stillfocused said, Just because you are a virgin doesn't mean its any easier. Its hard and the flesh is a very powerful force. Lawd help us right now. Thats why we have to die dailey and kill that flesh and trust me it doesn't feel good at all, im going through it right now......... Love Jessica |
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Post by giantsdodie on Nov 13, 2007 9:06:55 GMT -5
I think this is one of the absolutely misused and abused scriptures in the bible. People use this sccripture to justify why they married the wrong person. Why they married someone unsaved. Its sad..
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 13, 2007 10:11:59 GMT -5
I think this is one of the absolutely misused and abused scriptures in the bible. People use this sccripture to justify why they married the wrong person. Why they married someone unsaved. Its sad.. So true Giants! Instead, they need to call it what it is ..FLESH, LUST. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 13, 2007 10:15:57 GMT -5
Okay AWSOY..you make a valid point many do get married to for the sex. I believe that when you have "known" or should I tasted of the what at one time was taboo or forbidden..it's hard not to remember what it was like for those who are saved and are abstaining from sex. So someone tells you that " it's better to marry than to burn". And for those who have never tasted it seems that is a curiosity of what they are missing or have missed..because they are still virgins. It really makes one say I can't wait until I get married to have sex. And many couples are marrying just to have sex..and sadly that is the extend of their relationship. I believe I understand what it is you are saying. However, what we must remember is just because you cannot control your "passions", does not make it right to marry the person. See, I am a believer that not only do we have to marry the right person, we also need to marry the right person, at the right time. In other words, Joe can be the one but Joe may not be the one right now. There may be things that the Lord needs to work out within both of us as individuals before He wants us to come together as one in marriage. I will add more in a lil bit, running out of time right now. |
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Post by stillfocused on Nov 13, 2007 11:10:44 GMT -5
All valid point !! Yet, I don't believe there is a separation of those who have never had sex before and those who have made the choice to abstain until marriage. The challenge is know the purpose of why you will marrry..yet, the ultimate test for those who are not married is walk in self control..and to know when to run, and to recognize the attitudes and actions of one who has been sent from the devil. Giants, I have to agree that this one of the most abused scriptures in the Bible..because it's often used to justify my marrying the one "I" want to..other than waiting for the one that the Lord is sending. I love it when GiantsDoDie teaches us with the wisdom that he has..yet, there are many who tell those who are unmarried to "go find you a man" or " you don't have to wait God understands you have desires and because he gave them to you it's okay". And because many marry before they are 21 yrs..they don't understand the waiting because they didn't wait..they were so hot..they had to get married. Some get married so that they can have sex legally..because "I's married now !! Not really loving the person they married..yet, because it was the choice that was presented to them. And an acquired right to have sex.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 13, 2007 13:25:20 GMT -5
No, you are right, there is not seperation between those who have had sex before and those who have not. Either, if single, would need to abstain and not give into their desire to have sex.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Nov 13, 2007 15:30:01 GMT -5
Some time ago, after Juanita first married Mr. Weeks, a friend of mine called me and asked me to pray for JB and TW. She stated that she didn't believe the marriage was of God and that it was going to come to a "public end". She also stated that it was not a "pure" courtship and that was one of the reasons why they married.
Hearing this without any proof, I kinda just blew it away but because I also did not feel it was a God ordained marriage I prayed for the both. I didn't remember what my friend said until this fiasco came about. I have heard JB mention her sex life too many times on air and it showed me that she truly is not delivered from "da sheets". Sure she may not have had sex in some time but the driving force behind her marriage was the flesh. The lust was not just in the area of sex but just the idea of being married itself. This manifested with the "million dollar wedding", the "marrying of both hands", the accepting of a ring that she knew her husband could not afford to pay, the dating/marrying of him so soon after the "BISHOP" divorced his wife, the 'carnal conversations" on TBN as well as the carnality displayed during the TMHTLY conferences.
Oops, my break is over- I will be back!
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Post by auneeqsol on Nov 16, 2007 14:47:13 GMT -5
Okay ...but we never broke down what the scripture was actually saying. What was Paul trying to relate to the church by saying "But if you CANNOT contain, its BETTER to marry than to burn." Was he saying someone who has been courting, and pure in the eyesight of God, they just get really close and they have a date set for another year, but they want to be with one another NOW!! Was he basically saying "why wait, and burn in passion, just get married"!!! Forget extending it another year do it now, since you know that yall are gonna be together, and you have sought the Lord concerning this union.
I think it was somewhat along those lines....along with other reasons
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Post by Jasmine on Nov 16, 2007 16:41:50 GMT -5
Okay ...but we never broke down what the scripture was actually saying. What was Paul trying to relate to the church by saying "But if you CANNOT contain, its BETTER to marry than to burn." Was he saying someone who has been courting, and pure in the eyesight of God, they just get really close and they have a date set for another year, but they want to be with one another NOW!! Was he basically saying "why wait, and burn in passion, just get married"!!! Forget extending it another year do it now, since you know that yall are gonna be together, and you have sought the Lord concerning this union. I think it was somewhat along those lines....along with other reasons Okay ...but we never broke down what the scripture was actually saying. What was Paul trying to relate to the church by saying "But if you CANNOT contain, its BETTER to marry than to burn." Was he saying someone who has been courting, and pure in the eyesight of God, they just get really close and they have a date set for another year, but they want to be with one another NOW!! Was he basically saying "why wait, and burn in passion, just get married"!!! Forget extending it another year do it now, since you know that yall are gonna be together, and you have sought the Lord concerning this union. I think it was somewhat along those lines....along with other reasons I think that the scripture is implying that..it is better to marry than to burn with sexual desires. I don't believe it specifically has anything to do with courting , because paul exhorts "young widows" to marry, bear children, and give the enemy no room for reproach. In essence I do see that the implication being implied is if there is so Self-restraint...then you will eventually yeild to your temptation, or you will be so consumed with the "burning" that you can not go to God with a peacable conscience. |
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