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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 1, 2006 16:20:35 GMT -5
I believe that because some are so quick to defend the messenger that they fail to see the flaws in the teaching. Sorry, just had to say it. ^ 5 Amen!!!! |
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Post by keita on Mar 1, 2006 16:29:29 GMT -5
I believe that because some are so quick to defend the messenger that they fail to see the flaws in the teaching. But in defense of the messengers and those who defend them, I honestly do believe it is entirely possible for a true prophet to receive a true word from God and be somewhat to completely off on the interpretation. And I think that happens A LOT and not just with JB. Still, it's no small matter because the scriptures tell us that "a little leaven leavens the whole lump." That's why I said earlier: STIR UP THE GIFTS! ;D (And that doesn't mean just gathering together a bunch of people who think you're fabulous, always "agree" with you and wouldn't tell you if they didn't.  ) Oh, and because I watch as well as pray, is everyone aware that Sister Juanita and Brother Tom are planting a church near Atlanta, Ga,... the very place where this conference and its pageantry are planned? |
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Post by nina on Mar 1, 2006 17:52:38 GMT -5
I did not, but as you might have already guessed, I live under a big rock!  Keita, nothing in my post was meant to belittle or to be "patronising", even less disrespectful, and if any of it came off that way, I do apologise. As I do agree with what you said so well, those "events" are distracting and probably damaging because the focus is taken off of what and who matters. |
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Post by keita on Mar 1, 2006 19:10:49 GMT -5
I did not, but as you might have already guessed, I live under a big rock! LOL! Praise God that we both live on a big rock! No worries, sis! I certainly didn't feel anything like that from what you posted and if any of my posts caused you to be concerned that I did, please accept my apologies. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 1, 2006 19:23:17 GMT -5
yes I heard about the "church planting" but no comment to it.
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Post by Guest on Mar 2, 2006 7:57:03 GMT -5
Bless 'em Lord |
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Post by Guest on Mar 2, 2006 8:39:01 GMT -5
You all, the horses are just going to pull the ark up to the Georgia Dome. There will be praise dancers, etc. celebrating the Lord in the streets. From my understanding, 12 priests will carry the ark into the building. Again, look at it like an illustrated sermon. There is no flaw in this teaching. You all just can't get pass the "fanfare" as you call it. I look at it as an illustrated sermon. Ministers do it all the time. Since we are against flaws, then we need to do away with church anniversaries, pastor's anniversaries, church plays, saling for fundraisers in the church, etc. None of it is the bible! So he without error, please cast the first stone. Juanita Bynum is not off in this tabernacle teaching/demonstration. I rather go to a conference where someone is teaching me how to come before God holy as seen in the tabernacle (and even illustrating it) rather than sit up in some gospel concert where they are hip hoppin' and doing the bounce bounce. The ark is in the heavenly temple. She's preparing us, as a prophet, for what is to come. You all call it imitation, I call it symbolic representation. You call it fanfare, I call it illustrating the bible. There are different gifts and ways of using gifts but the same Lord. As long as Jesus is the center, it isn't error. Jesus is the tabernacle. He is the rider on the white horse as Revelations 19 explain! I think Nina's advice should be followed and just see what will actually happen. You all are going to find a way to watch it anyway. But I'm sure, more explanations will come attesting to what I just said. So carry on  |
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Post by GiantsDODie ns on Mar 2, 2006 9:16:04 GMT -5
You all, the horses are just going to pull the ark up to the Georgia Dome. There will be praise dancers, etc. celebrating the Lord in the streets. From my understanding, 12 priests will carry the ark into the building. Again, look at it like an illustrated sermon. There is no flaw in this teaching. You all just can't get pass the "fanfare" as you call it. I look at it as an illustrated sermon. Ministers do it all the time. Since we are against flaws, then we need to do away with church anniversaries, pastor's anniversaries, church plays, saling for fundraisers in the church, etc. None of it is the bible! So he without error, please cast the first stone. Juanita Bynum is not off in this tabernacle teaching/demonstration. I rather go to a conference where someone is teaching me how to come before God holy as seen in the tabernacle (and even illustrating it) rather than sit up in some gospel concert where they are hip hoppin' and doing the bounce bounce. The ark is in the heavenly temple. She's preparing us, as a prophet, for what is to come. You all call it imitation, I call it symbolic representation. You call it fanfare, I call it illustrating the bible. There are different gifts and ways of using gifts but the same Lord. As long as Jesus is the center, it isn't error. Jesus is the tabernacle. He is the rider on the white horse as Revelations 19 explain! I think Nina's advice should be followed and just see what will actually happen. You all are going to find a way to watch it anyway. But I'm sure, more explanations will come attesting to what I just said. So carry on Think you need to take a step back and stop throwing a blanket over everyone. People have a right to question the why and how something is done. Now according to the scripture the Ark was NEVER to be carried on a cart or drawn by horses. That was what I had a question about. In fact if my memory serves me correct the very reason David left the ark at the threshing floor was because he had transported it in a way God said NOT to and a man died because of it. You claim there is no flaw in the teaching but nothing has actually been taught yet and I pray there is no flaw in the teaching at all ( and I dont believe there will be ). My point is that if you are going to make an illustration based on the Word of God then that illustration should be as accurate as possible. While there is much to learn regarding the OT things like the tabernacle we also realize we dont come to God holy because of anything we do. We come to God Holy because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ. People have a right to question what is being done. Now what would be a help is if you could share what was actually taught for those that werent able to go. |
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 2, 2006 9:36:41 GMT -5
Think you need to take a step back and stop throwing a blanket over everyone. People have a right to question the why and how something is done. Now according to the scripture the Ark was NEVER to be carried on a cart or drawn by horses. That was what I had a question about. In fact if my memory serves me correct the very reason David left the ark at the threshing floor was because he had transported it in a way God said NOT to and a man died because of it. You claim there is no flaw in the teaching but nothing has actually been taught yet and I pray there is no flaw in the teaching at all ( and I dont believe there will be ). My point is that if you are going to make an illustration based on the Word of God then that illustration should be as accurate as possible. While there is much to learn regarding the OT things like the tabernacle we also realize we dont come to God holy because of anything we do. We come to God Holy because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ. People have a right to question what is being done. Now what would be a help is if you could share what was actually taught for those that werent able to go. AMEN Brother Bravo!!!! When did questioning become offensive and against God and the leaders of God? Guest if you know please care to explain I asked in previous post does ANYONE have an in depth UNDERSTANDING regarding the ARK of the Covenant and its symbolic...... Guest, not once have you given any scripture or study basis regarding the ARK all you are doing is one here trying in all your effort to defend JBW who needs no defense bcuz NO ONE is against her.............. We are just trying to understand the WHY behind the cause............. |
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Post by Nikkol on Mar 2, 2006 10:25:33 GMT -5
Here's the excerpt of what she said:
""......he was calling me to do stuff that may seem a little you know out there for him... but as long as I know that I'm out there for him, it doesn't shake me how people feel............ I want you to bring the ark of the covenant up. I want you to get 6 white horses. I want you to pull it through the streets and place the ark of the covenant on the streets of Atlanta . He said I want 100 praise dancers in white and we're going to bring up the ark of the covenant into that building.......... I shook on that floor in Lumberton because I saw, I saw just an open vision and he said they make a big thing; the world makes a big thing out of everything but ATL needs to know and the people of God need to know, this city needs to know that it represents Obededom's house and when you bring up the ark of the covenant curses will be broken in the spirit. He said blinded eyes; because people have been blinded to the love of Jesus and that's what he wants us to understand he wants us to focus on him and his love.....as the dancers come and the ark of the covenant is on that cart and the horses are going to pull it and when it gets outside of that auditorium the 12 priests that the Lord has chosen in priestly garments shall put it on their shoulders and they shall usher it in. And from that point on it will be all about Jesus! All about His presence! He will the star."
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Post by MsKayLander on Mar 2, 2006 10:30:25 GMT -5
I think... way back over five pages ago... (smile)... I gave the web address for info on the tabernacle which included info on the ark and it's significance... I also listed a few books for those who desired to read.... I think this is being blown WAY out of proportion and whether we question it or not... we should really pray that GOD's will be done...and just like what happened in OT times when they touched the ark because of the significance of it during that time... will happen again...
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Post by MsKayLander on Mar 2, 2006 10:44:05 GMT -5
2 Samuel 6 1Again, David gathered together all the chosen men of Israel, thirty thousand. 2And David arose, and went with all the people that were with him from Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God, whose name is called by the name of the LORD of hosts that dwelleth between the cherubims. 3And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the new cart. 4And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which was at Gibeah, accompanying the ark of God: and Ahio went before the ark. 5And David and all the house of Israel played before the LORD on all manner of instruments made of fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals. 6And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. 7And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God. Why are we so up in arms about this? This ain't the ark.. it is a replica.... |
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Post by MsKayLander on Mar 2, 2006 11:01:36 GMT -5
I believe that because some are so quick to defend the messenger that they fail to see the flaws in the teaching. Sorry, just had to say it. Not trying to be funny... can you point out the flaws?? |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 2, 2006 11:11:47 GMT -5
Bless 'em Lord LOL |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 2, 2006 11:13:13 GMT -5
I believe that because some are so quick to defend the messenger that they fail to see the flaws in the teaching. Sorry, just had to say it. Not trying to be funny... can you point out the flaws?? someone already did  |
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