Will we each have a mansion in heaven?

[krazeeboi]

jasmine said:

Well I want to be where Jesus is!

That's what that old song says!

I heard one person put it this way: If he had to cross a bridge over hell to get to heaven, and looked down and saw Jesus, he would jump into hell just to be with Jesus than to be in heaven without Him.

Even though this has an eternal application, there is also a present reality. I am already where Jesus is: seated with Him in heavenly places!

But oh the day we will see Him face to face. My God, my God.....

[this2shallpass]

Nikkol posted:

Revelation 21:1-8
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and sleepermongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God's Word is marvelous, marvelous. Leaves no questions unanswered - yea or nay

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

Amen, Amen, and Amen.

[Beulah5]

krazeeboi said:

Are there really buildings in heaven? I don't know, but for me that is neither here nor there, since heaven isn't my home.

This is not about us-i do not believe the bible teaches that we will live in heaven forever as well however i do believe that there are buildings in heaven.

For a start we know that God has a throne room.

We also know from scripture that there is a tabernacle up there.

2 building structures ;D

I suppose the angels have some shelter to sit in and store their instruments and the departed saints as well or are they just all sitting on a hill? ;D

Do i believe there are buildings in heaven?-yes

Do I believe that we shall live in mansions in heaven-no because we are going to be living on the new earth.

;D

[Anointed Teacher]

I will stick to the scripture, If Jesus said in His Father's House there are many mansions, I believe there are mansions. Why would He tell the disciples that, if it not true. Will we be living in those mansion? Well, He did say He going to prepare a place for them. What is the place Jesus prepared them? I believe we will have a dwelling place, a place to rest, also believe we will be busy, not just skipping around the throne and sitting on the Holy hill.

AT

[MsKayLander]

The Father has lots of available space in His family or HOUSE. He has lots of ROOMS or ABODES for as many as want to come in. Jesus was also drawing an analogy from the TEMPLE which He called
"my Father's house" (JN 2:13-16). The Temple or tabernacle in Jerusalem was patterned after the tabernacle that God had Moses construct, which in turn was patterned after the heavenly Temple ( Heb. 9). In the Temple at Jerusalem there were many ROOMS for the officiating priests to dwell in while serving and
performing their duties.

mansion
a staying, abiding, dwelling, abode
to make an (one's) abode

Do you really think we are going to heaven to dwell in a mansion? I don't know, I think it means more that a "huge house"... this should be studied and exegied more than a literal translation

[Anointed Teacher]

What did the Word say.... many mansions or space. He say in my Father House ... so mansions can not be one (singular) Hugh house in the Father's House. Jesus say MANY mansions. Jesus made it simple and clear. It is not symbolic or anything. What is a mansion in Jesus days v.s. to what we describe as a mansion. I do believe it is a dwelling place,that Jesus promised to prepare for us.

AT

[MsKayLander]

we are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit so don't you believe that the two would correlate and not in terms of a mansion like we have built now??

[keita]

At this point, I'm inclined to agree with

KB

We are the mansions, or the dwelling places.

and

Misskay

we are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit so don't you believe that the two would correlate and not in terms of a mansion like we have built now??

in terms of interpreting John 14:1-3. If indeed we are the "mansions" (dwelling/abiding places) that Jesus went "up" to prepare a place for, that makes really good scriptural sense in terms of Revelation 21:2, and the "coming down" of that prepared place.

Btw, does anyone know what "house" means in John 14:2 ("In my Father's house...?)

Bee wrote:

This is not about us-i do not believe the bible teaches that we will live in heaven forever as well however i do believe that there are buildings in heaven.

For a start we know that God has a throne room.

We also know from scripture that there is a tabernacle up there.

2 building structures

I suppose the angels have some shelter to sit in and store their instruments and the departed saints as well or are they just all sitting on a hill?

Do i believe there are buildings in heaven?-yes

Do I believe that we shall live in mansions in heaven-no because we are going to be living on the new earth.

I LOVE the way you are able to see the (often hidden) possibilities in scripture.

Obviously, we don't know if in heaven God's "throne room" is a physical room or the "tabernacle" a physical place. We don't know if heavenly angels and departed saints need a place to sit, shelter or storage space or how such needs would be accommodated.

But the possibilities are mighty interesting!

Anyway, I'm thrilled that in this thread, we have gone such a long way toward establishing scriptural understanding that whatever the nature of our accommodations, none of us will be spending eternity in heaven . Y'all do know that's serious news to a whole lot of believers, right?

It's also an understanding that does MUCH damage to a whole lot of popular theology (especially in funeral sermons) and beloved Christian music.

[krazeeboi]

Anointed said:

I will stick to the scripture, If Jesus said in His Father's House there are many mansions, I believe there are mansions. Why would He tell the disciples that, if it not true. Will we be living in those mansion? Well, He did say He going to prepare a place for them. What is the place Jesus prepared them? I believe we will have a dwelling place, a place to rest, also believe we will be busy, not just skipping around the throne and sitting on the Holy hill.

AT

AT, have you read any of my explanations of the text? If so, where do you think I err?

[krazeeboi]

keita said:

If indeed we are the "mansions" (dwelling/abiding places) that Jesus went "up" to prepare a place for, that makes really good scriptural sense in terms of Revelation 21:2, and the "coming down" of that prepared place.

Just had a thought (or more accurately, an enlightened thought)...the scripture speaks of the New Jerusalem coming DOWN OUT OF heaven, correct? Let's hook that up with:

"But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven." (Hebrews 12:22-23)

"One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, 'Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.' And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." (Rev. 21:9-10)

Anybody else see that???

Bee wrote:

This is not about us-i do not believe the bible teaches that we will live in heaven forever as well however i do believe that there are buildings in heaven.

For a start we know that God has a throne room.

We also know from scripture that there is a tabernacle up there.

2 building structures

I suppose the angels have some shelter to sit in and store their instruments and the departed saints as well or are they just all sitting on a hill?

Do i believe there are buildings in heaven?-yes

Do I believe that we shall live in mansions in heaven-no because we are going to be living on the new earth.

I LOVE the way you are able to see the (often hidden) possibilities in scripture.

Obviously, we don't know if in heaven God's "throne room" is a physical room or the "tabernacle" a physical place. We don't know if heavenly angels and departed saints need a place to sit, shelter or storage space or how such needs would be accommodated.

But the possibilities are mighty interesting!

I am in agreement.

Anyway, I'm thrilled that in this thread, we have gone such a long way toward establishing scriptural understanding that whatever the nature of our accommodations, none of us will be spending eternity in heaven . Y'all do know that's serious news to a whole lot of believers, right?

Yeah, that upsets a WHOLE lot of people's theologies.

It's also an understanding that does MUCH damage to a whole lot of popular theology (especially in funeral sermons) and beloved Christian music.

I love Mary Mary, but their latest single "Heaven" is off, theologically speaking. I'm still picking up the CD though.

[auneeqsol]

Well personally I just think their song was referring to the state of happiness or peace up in heaven as compared to what we experience on this earth. But I still like the song though too.

I can see how you are saying we are the mansion...hmmm it was kind of deep treading but i had my boots on though!! That's something...if I tell some folks that they would stone me in a heart beat, and it will mess their theology all up for real!!! Im gonna share this with my husband and see what he says.

But I do believe that heaven has building structures. Because wasnt the temple in the OT a blueprint or a copy of the one in heaven? I could be wrong though. You know with the measurements and all?

[krazeeboi]

And what does the NT tell us about the temple of God?

[MsKayLander]

Just a side note... the tabernacle had no chairs, beds or anything of comfort there... it was work 24/7.....

[auneeqsol]

Well KB it refers to us as the temple, but when we enter heaven we will not have the same bodies , but a full glorified body, and there will be no more need for the Holy Spirit to dwell in us according to the scripture will it?
1Cr 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
When we enter into heaven we receive a glorified body, will the Holy spirit still be dwelling in us? What need would we have to be led and guided then?

[krazeeboi]

I think the answer to that can be found in the temple references towards the end of Revelation.