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Post by Nikkol on Aug 15, 2005 14:09:17 GMT -5
This stems from the Fred Hammond post.....
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Post by MsKayLander on Aug 15, 2005 14:11:51 GMT -5
what about the anointing?
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 15, 2005 14:22:25 GMT -5
what about the anointing? LOL...good question. Sis. Nikkol, What aspect of the anointing do you wish to discuss in this post. |
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Post by Nikkol on Aug 15, 2005 14:24:03 GMT -5
A person is annointed to DO something for God. This is not perse based on one's gifts. You can be gifted to play the piano but can't sing AT ALL. Yet, if necessary, God will annoint you to sing which in turn will destroy yokes, etc.
Now regarding music. I think that we can all probably think of one song that an artist has sung that wasn't of God because it was contrary to God's word. At the same time, even those songs that are contrary depending on who the person is will cause people to cry, get excited, etc........
Hopefully that will get the ball rolling. It's just that the FH post was turning moreso into discussing the annointing than perse Hammond.
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Post by Beck on Aug 15, 2005 14:25:41 GMT -5
Okay how about this..
What does it mean to be anointed?
What does it mean to have the anointing?
Why are we anointed?
Why do we have the anointing?
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 15, 2005 14:26:16 GMT -5
Five types of annointing: 1. The act of anointing signified consecration to a holy or sacred use; hence the anointing of the high priest (Ex. 29:29; Lev. 4:3) and of the sacred vessels (Ex. 30:26). The high priest and the king are thus called "the anointed" (Lev. 4:3,5, 16; 6:20; Ps. 132:10). Anointing a king was equivalent to crowning him (1 Sam. 16:13; 2 Sam. 2:4, etc.). Prophets were also anointed (1 Kings 19:16; 1 Chr. 16:22; Ps. 105:15). The expression, "anoint the shield" (Isa. 21:5), refers to the custom of rubbing oil on the leather of the shield to make it supple and suitable for use in war. 2. Anointing was also an act of hospitality (Luke 7:38, 46). It was the custom of the Jews to anoint themselves with oil, as a means of refreshing or invigorating their bodies (Deut. 28:40; Ruth 3:3; 2 Sam. 14:2; Ps. 104:15, etc.). Some Arabs still continue this custom today. 3. Oil was used also for medicinal purposes. It was applied to the sick, and also to wounds (Ps. 109:18; Isa. 1:6; Mark 6:13; James 5:14). 4. The bodies of the dead were sometimes anointed (Mark 14:8; Luke 23:56). 5. The promised Deliverer is twice called the "Anointed" or Messiah (Ps. 2:2; Dan. 9:25-26), because he was anointed with the Holy Ghost (Isa. 61:1), figuratively the "oil of gladness" (Ps. 45:7; Heb. 1:9). Jesus of Nazareth is this anointed One (John 1:41; Acts 9:22; 17:2-3; 18:5, 28), the Messiah of the Old Testament. taken from www.christiananswers.netSo what are we discussing? |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 15, 2005 14:26:42 GMT -5
A person is annointed to DO something for God. This is not perse based on one's gifts. You can be gifted to play the piano but can't sing AT ALL. Yet, if necessary, God will annoint you to sing which in turn will destroy yokes, etc. Now regarding music. I think that we can all probably think of one song that an artist has sung that wasn't of God because it was contrary to God's word. At the same time, even those songs that are contrary depending on who the person is will cause people to cry, get excited, etc........ Hopefully that will get the ball rolling. It's just that the FH post was turning moreso into discussing the annointing than perse Hammond. Sorry Sis, I still don't get what you are trying to say.  It must be a Monday ;D |
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 15, 2005 14:40:03 GMT -5
elderbeck wrote:
Okay how about this..
What does it mean to be anointed?
We have been set apart to be used in service of God.
What does it mean to have the anointing?
We have received Jesus as our lord, and the Spirit now Dwells in the inside
Why are we anointed?
Isaiah 61:1
The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Why do we have the anointing?
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 15, 2005 16:17:38 GMT -5
Okay how about this.. What does it mean to be anointed? What does it mean to have the anointing? Why are we anointed? Why do we have the anointing? great start! I will be back for this one! |
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Post by keita on Aug 15, 2005 16:55:27 GMT -5
For me, "What/Who is the (A)anointing?" is the most basic question. It is one of the many questions to which I believe our answers should be subject to some serious and timely examination of God's Word and seeking Him for wisdom. I think as believers we're way too often really vague and ambiguous in our use of the terms and in practice of anoint, anointing (both verb and noun), anointed, etc . A lot of us (especially we, uh, the more scholarly types  ) can coin and parrot some deep and holy sounding definitions of those terms. Many of us declare them about ourselves, others and even places and things. I've done both. But at this time, I believe that so many of the Church's standards, teaching, and practices are being addressed and judged by God. That is also a time when so many important corrections, understandings, and revelations are coming from humbly and teachably revisiting God's Word, and hearing His Spirit concerning some very foundational truths. So about "the anointing", God has reduced my present and ongoing question to something a lot like what the Israelites asked when they first saw manna...."What/Who is that?" Teach us, Holy Spirit! |
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Post by Jasmine nsi on Aug 15, 2005 17:50:13 GMT -5
then lets have the more "scholarly types" grace us with the knowledge, and answer those basic questions |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 15, 2005 17:54:04 GMT -5
then lets have the more "scholarly types" grace us with the knowledge, and answer those basic questions Well, that just knocked me out of this conversation. Imo step back now.  |
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Post by Jasmine NSI on Aug 15, 2005 17:56:59 GMT -5
I doubt it And Such, you may not grace us with unger definitions and Thompson Chain references, however we all possess knowledge in our own right, so please share! |
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Post by keita on Aug 15, 2005 19:42:54 GMT -5
Wow. Judging from the sarcasm of the last 3 posts, I must have really missed the mark in mine.  Let me try to explain. Actually, I was hoping that we wouldn't do that. I was trying to say that the scholarly route, though it has its place and is one I often pursue, isn't always the most fruitful or even the most effective approach when we're truly seeking God for answers. My point and (apparently failed attempt at self-deprecating humor) was that traditional biblical scholarship hasn't been all that useful or satisfying to me in understanding "the anointing". I truly hope not! I was really excited by and welcoming the opportunity to seek truth with and learn from others' understanding of scripture and our enquiring of God about a subject that I/we talk about a lot. For me, "the anointing" is one that I'm simply and truthfully not at all as sure about my understanding of, and what I've been taught about it, as I once was. I was sincerely looking forward to getting some clarity from our study and discussion of it. You won't be getting either from me, at least not on this topic . Despite the worthiness and usefulness of those references and many others, I've got a lot of questions and too few answers about "the anointing". So I was being completely honest and totally serious about my search and desire for right understanding of "the anointing" and the kind/level of question that I've begun seeking answers to. I intended no offense, apologize if I caused any, and I will take none. I just hope I made myself and my intentions clear(er).  |
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 15, 2005 20:05:37 GMT -5
Keita,
I apologize because I misinterpreted what you were saying. I was for certain that i saw something that I did not see. I sorry, I sorry, I sorry.
My eyes were deceiving me.
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) can coin and parrot some deep and holy sounding definitions of those terms. Many of us declare them about ourselves, others and even places and things. I've done both.
