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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 18, 2005 6:23:15 GMT -5
Keita, I am with you.
'Bout to print, glean and add!
BBL!
Hmmm Hmmm the "riches" of God's Word.
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Post by MsKayLander on Aug 18, 2005 8:16:20 GMT -5
let us have a look in the book of Exodus chapter 30 and let the Holy Spirit give us insight to understand more in the realm of anointing.
Moreover the Lord spoke to Moses saying, Also take for yourself quality spices - five hundred shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much sweet smelling cinnamon (two hundred and fifty shekels), two hundred and fifty of sweet smelling cane. Five hundred shekels of cassia, according to the shekel of sanctuary and a him of olive oil. And you shall make from these a holy anointing oil, an ointment compounded according to the art of the perfumer. It shall be a holy anointing oil.
Exodus 30:22-25
First mentioned are the spices and their appropriate weight. The spices which were to be used must be of quality (NKJV) or principal (KJV). It is from the Hebrew word roshe meaning - the head, the chief, the first, or excellent.
God instructed Moses to use the best spices as ingredients of the anointing oil. They were valuable, costly and rare. They were not common or cheap.
There were four spices plus a hin of olive oil that were to be used.
Myrrh
Cinnamon
Calamus (or cane)
Cassia
and olive oil
Now, let's describe each spice and its spiritual application.
Myrrh
Myrrh is a pale yellow gummy substance or liquid from a small thorny shrub which grows in Somalia, Ethiopia and Arabia. It is used for spice or as an ointment. The best of it flows freely without the act of man. The oil of myrrh is purifying in its application. It is very costly. Fr4agrant at the smell and bitter to the taste. It is also used as a balm to rub on sore parts of the body to bring relief.
So, the person of the Holy Spirit is a gift given by the grace of God to the body of Christ. He cannot be purchased because He is priceless. He shall never be addressed as "it", because He is God and needs to be obeyed and worshiped.
The first thing He wants to do in an individual so that person can be used as a vessel of honor is to bring the spiritual myrrh to purify the vessel.
...He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
Matthew 3:11
The fire of the Holy Spirit is not for our destruction, but for our purification - to render us fit for the Master's use.
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the Master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
II Timothy 2:21
Though we go through the fire of purification, the Holy Spirit is our Comforter. When someone goes through this process, he sometimes endures some pain. But the Comforter rubs His sweet presence on the aching parts to bring relief.
If you want to be used by God, my dear brothers and sister, let the fire of the Holy Spirit come and burn all the straws (which are impurities of the flesh). Sure, the experience of purification is bitter, but in the end we will be a sweet fragrance in the nostrils of our Beloved Father. Therefore, myrrh speaks of purification.
Cinnamon
The cinnamon oil is distilled from the bark of the cinnamon tree growing in Ceylon. It is something very tasty and is usually used to flavor food because of its pleasant aroma.
God said to Israel in Leviticus 26:31, "I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas." Because of the disobedience of Israel, whatever they were offering or doing for God's satisfaction was not pleasant to Him. Whenever God's children are disobedient to Him, He is not pleased with their prayers or whatever sacrifice they can offer to Him. God cannot be bribed.
To obey is better than sacrifice.
I Samuel 15:22
In the book of Ecclesiastes chapter 5, God addressed these as fools who offer a sacrifice to Him but were not obedient to Him. I know of many precious servants of God (called by God) who can be powerful instruments in the hands of God Almighty, but they remain stagnant and unfruitful.
They are satisfied with what is good, and they don't go for the best. Why? It is because they have chosen rather to obey man and man-made traditions other than God. To obey God there is a price to pay, and it's not cheap.
You will have to let go of many things which you have put your trust in. You will lose many so-called "friends." You are their friends as long as you stay in "their" church. When you leave, you become their "enemy." At a certain time in your life and having paid the price, you will feel yourself lonely, misunderstood and rejected by someone. This is the cost of the sweet spiritual cinnamon, but in the end it will pay off.
It is at this very moment that the blending process by the master apothecary starts. He will be your real partner and will bring genuine and faithful friends to your side. Then your life will be tasteful and a pleasant aroma unto God. The cinnamon speaks of obedience.
Calamus (or cane)
The calamus is a sweet cane plant of about ten feet high growing in Asia in marshy places. When it is crushed and broken, it exudes a sweet fragrance. The more it is broken, more of the fragrance is exuded. In its spiritual application, the calamus speaks of brokenness.
But on this one will I look on him who is poor and oaf a contrite spirit, and who trembles at my word.
Isaiah 66:2
The word contrite in Hebrew is "nakeh" meaning smitten. A second word "dakah" meaning to crumble, to bruise, to break into pieces. Now the word to refer in Hebrew is "nabat" - meaning to to regard with pleasure, to favour, to care, to consider and to have respect.
When you study the book of Mark, chapter 14, you can learn a valuable lesson concerning brokenness. Many precious friends in the service of the Lord are battling to walk in the anointing in a high level, but find themselves at the same measure they started. It is because they have not passed from the brokenness stage. Therefore, an ingredient is missing in their lives.
In the book of Mark, there was a certain woman who came into the house of Simon, the leper, where Jesus was in Bethany. This woman was in possession of a very precious thing - an alabaster flask of spikenard. It is a very expensive and rare substance extracted from a variety of bearded grass growing in India. This flask of spikenard had cost the woman about three hundred days of labor. How many years might this woman have worked to save money to buy it when some merchants came to her village, maybe once a year? She bought some this year, some next year and so on.
When the flask was filled, she sealed it and kept it to anoint her bridegroom on the day of their wedding. But the Bible says that she broke the flask, her life of sacrifice, and poured the spikenard on the head of Jesus.
The people were mad at her. She gave to Jesus the most precious and valuable thing that a woman could possess and reserve for her husband-to-be.
For the perfume to be exuded, the flask had to be broken. For the Calamus to exude its sweet fragrance, it must be bruised and broken. For one's life to be pleasurable and acceptable to be God's carrier of His anointing, one must be broken.
The Calamus must always stand erect in muddy waters.
It speaks about pride.
Pride can prevent you from experiencing brokenness. As long as a person keeps pride, he cannot carry a high level of the anointing in his life. We used to say, "Hey, have you noticed how many people I have in my church. How much money I have in the bank. The car I am driving. I don't preach to small churches. I preach only in big ones. I don't submit to anyone sir, I am the authority." We must change that kind of attitude. It is pride sir, I call it by its name. Get rid of pride, or you will stop the flow of God's anointing in your life.
God says in His word that He will consider, have pleasure and respect favorably him who has been broken.
For it seems to me that God has made an exhibit of us Apostles, exposing us to view last [of all, like men in triumphal procession who are] sentenced to death [and displayed at the end of the line]. For we have become a spectacle to the world - a show in the world's amphitheater - with both men and angels [as spectators].
We are [looked upon as] fools on account of Christ and for His sake, but you are [supposedly] so amazingly wise and prudent in Christ! We are weak but you are [so very] strong! You are highly esteemed, but we are in disrepute and contempt!
To this hour we have gone both hungry and thirsty, we habitually wear but one undergarment [and shiver in the cold]; we are roughly knocked about and wander around homeless.
And we still toil unto weariness [for our living] working hard with our own hands. When men revile us, that is, wound us with an accursed sting - we bless them. When we are persecuted, we take it patiently and endure it.
When we are slandered and defamed, we [try to] answer softly and bring comfort. We have been made and are now the rubbish and filth of the world. The offscouring of all things, the scum of the earth.
I Corinthians 4:9-13 (amplified version).
In other words, Paul said, "We have lost our reputation. We have not the approval of man. We have been broken."
But God is saying, "You who have lost your reputation. You who have been broken. You who are not approved by man. I, God, am taking over. You now have approval. My anointing over your life is My approval. I am regarding you with pleasure. I respect you, and I will continuously bestow my favour upon you."
Cassia
Cassia is the aromatic bark of a tree growing in Arabia. It is often used by some doctors as medicine. Cassia is derived from a Hebrew root word - quadad meaning to bend, to bow, or to stoop.
Bow down, then, before the strong hand of God. He will raise you up, when His time to deliver you comes.
1 Peter 5:6 (Knox translation)
Cassia speaks of humility.
Pride is not an influence. It is a demon spirit trying to destroy the life of the people of God. Earlier when I wrote on Calamus, I spoke briefly on pride. But in this part of study, we will go a step further.
Over all the pride of earth, he reigns supreme.
Job4:34 (Knox translation)
When you study this chapter of Job, you will notice that the writer was speaking about Leviathan. It is said that he reigns supreme over all the pride of the earth. Then all who are tolerating pride in their lives are making Leviathan their master.
The man who hopes to master him will be disillusioned; at the sight of him a person is paralyzed.
Job 4:9 (Berkeley version)
Leviathan is paralyzing homes, businesses and ministries etc. Through pride, it is stopping the flow of life and brining stagnancy. No human being can master the king of pride.
When roused, he grows ferocious, no one can face him in a fight.
Job 41:10 (Jerusalem version)
Leviathan means a wreathed animal such as a serpent, a crocodile or a large sea monster. It speaks about satan himself, wreathed with the scales of pride. (Job 41:15).
When one is anointed, he is rubbed with the very presence of God. But when one allows pride in his heart, he is "rubbed" with the scales of Leviathan which are:
Pride - unduly high opinions of one's own qualities or merits.
Arrogance - overbearance through an exaggerated feeling of one's superiority.
Contention - an assertion made in arguing.
Boasting - speaking of oneself in such a manner to impress people.
Haughty - proud of oneself and looking down on others.
Witchcraft - misuse of spiritual power to control others.
Control - the power of restraint.
Manipulation - to influence craftily in order to cause others to wuit one's purpose.
Domination - to have a commanding or controlling influence over.
Rebellion - refusing allegiance to an established government, open resistance to righteousness authority.
Stubbornness - not easy to deal with.
Stubbornness leads to rebellion, rebellion leads to pride and pride leads to destruction.
Submission is the path to humility and humility is that path to promotion. A continuous walk in humility will cause a double portion of God's anointing to flow in an individual's life.
Strength has made a home in his neck, fear leaps before him as he goes.
Job 41:22 (Jerusalem version)
Fear is a companion of pride. One who is prideful also has fear in his life. One who leans totally upon the Lord is not afraid.
For I know thy rebellion and thy stiff-necked.
Deuteronomy 3:27
The strength of Leviathan resides in its neck. When someone is stubborn (stiff-necked) satan controls his strength, and the flow of God's anointing in his life commences to be dry.
If someone has grey areas in his life, God will speak to him many times for him to make readjustment and to repent. If this person disobeys and becomes stiff-necked, it will lead him to rebellion. Then the door will be opened for Leviathan to wow the seed of pride. When pride's seed is fully grown, the scales will start to grow, then destruction will begin.
I have pursued my enemies and overtaken them, neither did I turn back again till they were destroyed.
I have wounded them so that they could not rise, they have fallen under my feet.
For you have armed me with strength for the battle, you have subdued under me those who rose up against me.
You have also given me the necks of my enemies...
Psalms 18:37-40.
God has given to us the neck of Leviathan. When we walk in humility, we will walk in the anointing and the yoke will be broken in our lives.
Olive Oil
The olive oil was one of the main tree crops of ancient Israel. It was during the month of November that the olives were picked and pressed for oil.
Olive trees can stand for long periods of drought. They take two years to mature, and then the fruits ripen slowly. The olives are placed on a grooved stone wheel and another stone is turned over them which is worked by a beam. The pulp is then pressed under weight. The oil runs into stone vats where it is then left for sometime to settle and clear.
Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights...
Matthew 4:1-2
Remember that the olive trees can stand for long periods of drought, and the olives must be pressed under weight to obtain the oil.
Forty has a spiritual meaning - Probation and trial.
The oil from the olives speaks of probation by trial. After Jesus had His time of probation by trial in the wilderness, He came out victorious and started His miraculous ministry.
To remind you, I told you earlier that there is a price to pay to carry a high level of anointing. You will lose your reputation by those you consider as friends, and you can be abandoned by everyone around you. It will seem as if you are living in the wilderness, but you will be able (by God's grace) to stand long periods of drought. Not many have passed the test of the wilderness.
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 22:14.
The anointing is a sign of God's approval over God's chosen vessels. It is not for public demonstration to make a show, but to serve the King of kings. After one's probation by trial, he will be fit to be a carrier of God's power in a greater level.
The word trying or testing in Greek is dokimos. It means approval. It is a word found on the undersides of many ancient pieces of pottery. This mark dokimos means that the piece has gone through the furnace without cracking and has been approved for service. God's chosen vessels who have been approved for royal service are marked "dokimos." They don't need the approval of man, and they are always disapproved by those who are governed by the flesh.
...and blend them into sacred anointed oil.
Exodus 30:25 (NABV)
According to the instructions of God to Moses after the principal spices had been prepared, they would be blended with olive oil. The essential element for the blending process.
By the help of my best friend, the Holy Spirit, I have given what I believe are the spiritual applications of the spices in an individuals life. After these characteristics have been formed in one's life through submission and total obedience unto God, then he/she will be found fit to be "blended" by the "apothecary."
And after the blending process, everyone will be able to notice the mark of God's approval upon an individual's life.
...an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary:...
Exodus 30:25
There are some individuals who always try to "make" the anointing through gimmicks, and this does not last. It can be made only by the master apothecary - the Holy Spirit!
...neither shall ye make any other like it, after the composition of it:
Exodus 30:32 (a)
The anointing is not to serve fleshly ends. Doing such things is like holding a time bomb or dynamite in one's hands.
If your motive is to make yourself well known, then you have missed the mark.
...upon man's flesh shall it not be poured.
Exodus 30:32 (b)
When the word of God has fullness of authority in our hearts, and we are not following the voice of carnal reason then the dear Master Apothecary is not hindered by fleshly ends.
...or whosoever putteth any of it upon a stranger, shall even be cut off from his people.
Exodus 30:33
One can be in the church and still be unsaved, just as a man in a garage is not a car. He will never walk in the anointing.
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Post by Beulah5 on Aug 18, 2005 10:05:10 GMT -5
I think that one angle of looking at it from what scripture says is that it is the anointing which destroys the yoke.
That means no matter what we may feel or think or how muh of God we may think is in the room if no yokes are broken then there was no anointing.
That word is also described as : fatness.
For some reason when the word anointing is mention for most of the pentecostal church a vision of emotions comes up and yes we can feel things but to me mention the anointing and that in my mind is more synonymous with the word of God. Those 2 are more interlinked to methan a cloud than comes into the room.
I am not touching on the topic as a whole-just a few cents.
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Post by this2shallpass on Aug 18, 2005 11:11:05 GMT -5
Thank you for posting those scriptures Misskay. I was going to post them - but my fingers were tired; (lost their anointng) LOL. Amen. **************** Numbers 22:23; 28-30 23. Now the donkey saw the Angel of the Lord standing in the way with His drawn sword in His hand and the donkey turned aside out of the way and went into the field. So Balam struck the donkey to turn her back onto the road. 28. Then the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times? 29. And Balaam said to the donkey, Because you have abused me. I wish there was a sword in my hand, for now I would kill you! 30. So the donkey said to Balaam. "Am I not the donkey on which you have ridden, ever since I became yours to this day? "Was I ever disposed to do this to you?" And he said "No." God's power is without limits. Is the donkey anointed to talk by God, or is this a talking donkey? The donkey pleads with Balaam "was I ever disposed to do this to you? Why is Balaam having conversation with the donkey? Could it be because as a prophet he is aware of God's unlimited power. (I'm aware these scriptures are of much debate, even among theologiians) BTW, keita, no offense taken  Eating good food, no time for offense. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 18, 2005 12:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 18, 2005 13:14:35 GMT -5
well I have told what my thoughts were through out this post, now let me tell you what I believe.
1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
I simply believe that the anointing and the Spirit are the same. The anointing comes from the Spirit, as it is by the spirit that we move and have our being. God himself said that it is neither by power or by might, but by His Spirit.
Because Christ is the Anointed One, and we have His Spirit dwelling on the inside, then the anointing shall continuously abide in us.
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Post by ybrown on Aug 18, 2005 14:46:17 GMT -5
Jasmine, I keep seeing more and more scriptural support that the Holy Spirit and the anointing (consecration) or unction may in fact be one, and the same.
These scriptures are after Jesus' resurrection and ascension to the right hand of the Father.
From the amplified Bible, 2 Corinthians 20:22
20 For as many as are the promises of God, they all find their Yes [answer] in Him [Christ]. For this reason we also utter the Amen (so be it) to God through Him [in His Person and by His agency] to the glory of God.
21 But it is God Who confirms and makes us steadfast and establishes us [in joint fellowship] with you in Christ, and has consecrated and anointed us [enduing us with the gifts of the Holy Spirit];
22 [He has also appropriated and acknowledged us as His by] putting His seal upon us and giving us His [Holy] Spirit in our hearts as the security deposit and guarantee [of the fulfillment of His promise].
I also thought about this: What do you do with oil? You pour it out. What does Christ do with his Spirit when we become born again? Like oil, He pours it out, thereby consecrating us.
We know that priests, kings and prophets were anointed (pouring oil over the head) officially for office. When we receive that pouring out of the Holy Spirit, (consecration) can it be that we're also being anointed for our individual offices as priests, prophets, leaders?
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Post by keita on Aug 18, 2005 14:59:17 GMT -5
WOW, y'all!!  Gimme a minute... I get overwhelmingly blessed just reading this thread through. It reminds me so much of a desire that I carry all the time, which is, to interactively study God's Word with the Holy Spirit and people who love and believe both God and His Word. To me, this thread is such a powerful manifestation of what Sista Bee calls "The Normal Church", yet it actually happens so very infrequently. I truly believe this is at least one of the ways we were intended to corporately study God's Word and this thread encourages me that such a thing really is possible. When I used to tell folks that I wanted to study God's Word, they sent me to seminary. Good stuff, but that wasn't it. When I became part of a traditional congregation, I excitedly attended bible study. Often enjoyable and sometimes instructive, but that wan't it either. When God shuts me in with Him and His Word for a season, I have the Best Teacher, few distractions and unlimited time. Still, something is missing even then. I'm always desiring, searching, and waiting for a time such as this so I'm having a wonderful "This is that" moment. I'm Praising God for that and for all of you!  If I could type in tongues, I surely would but the best I can do is TEACH HOLY SPIRIT! |
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Post by ybrown on Aug 18, 2005 15:27:38 GMT -5
H A L L E L U J A H ! The Holy Spirit just revealed something BIG to me. Jasmine listed the types of anointing:Five types of annointing: 1. The act of anointing signified consecration to a holy or sacred use; hence the anointing of the high priest (Ex. 29:29; Lev. 4:3) and of the sacred vessels (Ex. 30:26). The high priest and the king are thus called "the anointed" (Lev. 4:3,5, 16; 6:20; Ps. 132:10). Anointing a king was equivalent to crowning him (1 Sam. 16:13; 2 Sam. 2:4, etc.). Prophets were also anointed (1 Kings 19:16; 1 Chr. 16:22; Ps. 105:15). The expression, "anoint the shield" (Isa. 21:5), refers to the custom of rubbing oil on the leather of the shield to make it supple and suitable for use in war. 2. Anointing was also an act of hospitality (Luke 7:38, 46). It was the custom of the Jews to anoint themselves with oil, as a means of refreshing or invigorating their bodies (Deut. 28:40; Ruth 3:3; 2 Sam. 14:2; Ps. 104:15, etc.). Some Arabs still continue this custom today. 3. Oil was used also for medicinal purposes. It was applied to the sick, and also to wounds (Ps. 109:18; Isa. 1:6; Mark 6:13; James 5:14). 4. The bodies of the dead were sometimes anointed (Mark 14:8; Luke 23:56). 5. The promised Deliverer is twice called the "Anointed" or Messiah (Ps. 2:2; Dan. 9:25-26), because he was anointed with the Holy Ghost (Isa. 61:1), figuratively the "oil of gladness" (Ps. 45:7; Heb. 1:9). Jesus of Nazareth is this anointed One (John 1:41; Acts 9:22; 17:2-3; 18:5, 28), the Messiah of the Old Testament. taken from www.christiananswers.netSo what are we discussing? 
BUT WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE REVEALS THE TRUTH!My Lord, my lord, here it comes - GET READY, GET READY, GET READY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OUR ANOINTING IS ALL OF THAT!!!!!!Look at each one. I highlighted US in in red in each one!!! I'M WAAAAAAAAAY TOOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1. The act of anointing signified consecration to a holy or sacred use; hence the anointing of the high priest and of the sacred vessels. The high priest and the king are thus called "the anointed". Anointing a king was equivalent to crowning him. Prophets were also anointed. The expression, "anoint the shield", refers to the custom of rubbing oil on the leather of the shield to make it supple and suitable for use in war. THAT'S US!!!!!!!!!! KINGS, PRIESTS, SHIELD OF FAITH, THE HOLY SPIRIT PREPARES US FOR WARS !!!!!2. Anointing was also an act of hospitality. It was the custom of the Jews to anoint themselves with oil, as a means of refreshing or invigorating their bodies(Deut. 28:40; Ruth 3:3; 2 Sam. 14:2; Ps. 104:15, etc.). Some Arabs still continue this custom today. REFRESHING OR INVIGORATING? SOUND FAMILIAR? BEING BORN AGAIN. REFRESHED AND INVIGORATED.3. Oil was used also for medicinal purposes. It was applied to the sick, and also to wounds (Ps. 109:18; Isa. 1:6; Mark 6:13; James 5:14). BY HIS STRIPES WE ARE HEALED!!! WE'RE WOUND VESSELS? WE GET OUR DELIVERANCE AND HEALINGS!!!4. The bodies of the dead were sometimes anointed (Mark 14:8; Luke 23:56). WE WERE THE WALKING DEAD. WE DIDN'T KNOW CHRIST. NOW WE HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE!!!!!!!!5. The promised Deliverer is twice called the "Anointed" or Messiah (Ps. 2:2; Dan. 9:25-26), because he was anointed with the Holy Ghost (Isa. 61:1), figuratively the "oil of gladness" (Ps. 45:7; Heb. 1:9). Jesus of Nazareth is this anointed One (John 1:41; Acts 9:22; 17:2-3; 18:5, 28), the Messiah of the Old Testament.THAT'S US TOO!!!!!!!!! WE'VE GOT THE CHRIST LIVING INSIDE OF US!!!!!!!Our anointing encompasses all of those things, not just one or two. ALL. ISN'T OUR LORD AWESOME? ??Where is that dancing, screaming smiley when you need him? I'll just use THIS one again!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 18, 2005 15:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by endure4him on Aug 18, 2005 16:16:51 GMT -5
Praise the Lord for this topic! That was totally awesome how the spirit revealed that last post to you Sis.YBrown. Hello to all, been really busy here at work but, I've popped in a time or two and I must say I've gleaned from some very interesting topics just haven't had the time to respond much...I'm truly enjoying the saints of God on today! Say on my Bro/Sis'  |
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Post by keita on Aug 18, 2005 16:24:51 GMT -5
Catching up... That article blessed my socks off! It's encouraging to know that so many others are "on the same page", for a lot of the same reasons, and how much we are set by God to learn from each other. Misskay:That breakdown of the anointing oil made a Word that God had given me, "oil of My Spirit", just come to life. The type and shadow of those natural elements are given spiritual life in the Holy Spirit. (The info also gave me a tidbit for a teaching I'm working on regarding Leviathan! ) I think that one angle of looking at it from what scripture says is that it is the anointing which destroys the yoke. That means no matter what we may feel or think or how muh of God we may think is in the room if no yokes are broken then there was no anointing. Sista Bee, hearing a lot about "the anointing" yet not seeing nearly as much of that "yoke breaking" was also one of the very things that pressed me to further study. And I just knew that God had to have intended more with "the anointing" than our mystical/emotional experiences with a "cloud". well I have told what my thoughts were through out this post, now let me tell you what I believe. 1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. I simply believe that the anointing and the Spirit are the same. The anointing comes from the Spirit, as it is by the spirit that we move and have our being. God himself said that it is neither by power or by might, but by His Spirit. Because Christ is the Anointed One, and we have His Spirit dwelling on the inside, then the anointing shall continuously abide in us. Sista Jas: That last sentence is expressing EXACTLY where God left me as I was meditating on 1 John 2:27 last night! I still don't necessarily see "the anointing" and the Holy Spirit as the same, but I am convinced of their deep and intimate connection and relationship to each other. And Sis ybrown I'm with definitely with you on this: and 2 Corinthians 20:22 is a great example. Like you, I agree that "pouring" is a big part of our better understanding "the anointing". And speaking of scriptures which make the connection so many of us are seeing, this one came to me last evening: "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. (Joel 2:28-29) and its fulfillment at Pentecost (Acts 2:17-18). That led me to a walk through Luke 3:21-22: "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." and Luke 4:1-19, especially: "And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee:" (v.14) and "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord." (v.19) Now since we know how God feels about "private interpretation", I'm gonna take advantage of this opportunity to submit some of what I'm seeing and hearing. It seems to me that "the anointing" is the literal action of "pouring out". The "oil", which as a type and shadow, was once a natural product, was ultimately and is now fulfilled in and as the substance of the Holy Spirit. The pouring (action) of the oil (substance) are intimately, and in some ways, inseparably connected, but not the same... |
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Post by keita on Aug 18, 2005 16:27:47 GMT -5
Sis ybrown,
Your last post is about to lay me on the floor.
I'll be back y'all.
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 18, 2005 17:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by Jasmine nsi on Aug 18, 2005 18:16:27 GMT -5
ok im about to throw out one of the hebrew tongues for how my spirit feels after i finished reading the last several posts
HIYAH
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