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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 14:59:53 GMT -5
And this is exactly my point. When did it become okay to do these things - dreads, birth control, soccer, Christmas, Easter etc. Let's leave planned parenthood out of the equation: When did birth control become acceptable. I am not trying to get into anyone's bedroom because I have not asked ANYONE if they use birth control. My question, when did it become acceptable? anything that is marketed right will eventually become acceptable...........there is no shame or disgrace attached to anything. We live in a carefree do what you want to kind of society....... Unfortunately, this is true. I know that there are some questions that we will never really find the answer. This question just sat with me all day on Saturday and Sunday after doing my research. It still has not left me and for me, it is something that I just cannot do (if and when I marry) because my conscience is too strong on it. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 15:03:06 GMT -5
And this is exactly my point. When did it become okay to do these things - dreads, birth control, soccer, Christmas, Easter etc. Let's leave planned parenthood out of the equation: When did birth control become acceptable. I am not trying to get into anyone's bedroom because I have not asked ANYONE if they use birth control. My question, when did it become acceptable? anything that is marketed right will eventually become acceptable...........there is no shame or disgrace attached to anything. We live in a carefree do what you want to kind of society....... ASWSOY, back to the question and since we now have the facts as to why Planned Parenthood was established:
How can something that was created to annihilate a Race of People be considered part of God's plan?
whether it is acceptable or not, the origin behind Birth Control and Planned Parenthood was DEATH and the Genocide of the Black Race..............okay now that you added more to your post...lol. I figured that I will post one of the links that I was reading that caused me to ask the question. Please let's not just look at the issue of race but just the motive (but honestly in this case, I don't know if you can separate the two. The Negro Project |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 15:04:43 GMT -5
BTW, before it is implied that I am looking at just the "race" issue. I honestly was not, when I did a search on "the history of planned parenthood" and "Margaret Sanger", this is what I came up with and several other links just like it.
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Post by livinganewlife on Apr 10, 2006 15:06:11 GMT -5
Unfortunately, this is true. I know that there are some questions that we will never really find the answer. This question just sat with me all day on Saturday and Sunday after doing my research. It still has not left me and for me, it is something that I just cannot do (if and when I marry) because my conscience is too strong on it. My issue with BC (especially the contraceptives that are designed for women, which is what Planned Parenthood pushed in its infancy) is that the process for me is just to unnatural. I cannot understand how withholding a natural process would be good for the body. In answer to women, not being able to conceive naturally, as a woman who cannot conceive naturally, I refuse to get fertility treatments, because for some reason the Lord is not allowing that as a part of my plan for now.............. The whole fertility thing to me (IMO) is so selfish, because there are children out here who are starving for love and affection and all most women in that situation can think about is them not being able to naturally give birth to a child...... |
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Post by hezsweetiknow on Apr 10, 2006 15:20:31 GMT -5
And this is exactly my point. When did it become okay to do these things - dreads, birth control, soccer, Christmas, Easter etc. Let's leave planned parenthood out of the equation: When did birth control become acceptable. I am not trying to get into anyone's bedroom because I have not asked ANYONE if they use birth control. My question, when did it become acceptable?
How can something that was created to annihilate a Race of People be considered part of God's plan?
whether it is acceptable or not, the origin behind Birth Control and Planned Parenthood was DEATH and the Genocide of the Black Race..............There are other forms of birth control other than bc pills. The oldest form of contraceptive is the condom. www.populationaction.org/resources/publications/condomscount/HistoryOfCondoms.htm And there's another form of birth control mentioned in scripture: Gen 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled [it] on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. They were practicing birth control in the bible. We know that God was not pleased with Onan because of his disobedience. He was to continue his brothers legacy but did not. God slew him for his disobedience. He was supposed to give an heir for his slain brother and did not. |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 17:04:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately, this is true. I know that there are some questions that we will never really find the answer. This question just sat with me all day on Saturday and Sunday after doing my research. It still has not left me and for me, it is something that I just cannot do (if and when I marry) because my conscience is too strong on it. My issue with BC (especially the contraceptives that are designed for women, which is what Planned Parenthood pushed in its infancy) is that the process for me is just to unnatural. I cannot understand how withholding a natural process would be good for the body. In answer to women, not being able to conceive naturally, as a woman who cannot conceive naturally, I refuse to get fertility treatments, because for some reason the Lord is not allowing that as a part of my plan for now.............. The whole fertility thing to me (IMO) is so selfish, because there are children out here who are starving for love and affection and all most women in that situation can think about is them not being able to naturally give birth to a child...... Quick question, and not meaning this in a gross way, but do you ladies use tampons or pads? |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 17:06:52 GMT -5
Honestly, what is the purpose of sex? If we believe that sex is solely for creating and populating the earth, and not for pleasure..then yes let's rock on with this discussion. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 17:55:53 GMT -5
Honestly, what is the purpose of sex? If we believe that sex is solely for creating and populating the earth, and not for pleasure..then yes let's rock on with this discussion. I have already mentioned that I believe that it is for both. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 17:59:10 GMT -5
My issue with BC (especially the contraceptives that are designed for women, which is what Planned Parenthood pushed in its infancy) is that the process for me is just to unnatural. I cannot understand how withholding a natural process would be good for the body. In answer to women, not being able to conceive naturally, as a woman who cannot conceive naturally, I refuse to get fertility treatments, because for some reason the Lord is not allowing that as a part of my plan for now.............. The whole fertility thing to me (IMO) is so selfish, because there are children out here who are starving for love and affection and all most women in that situation can think about is them not being able to naturally give birth to a child...... Quick question, and not meaning this in a gross way, but do you ladies use tampons or pads? Ummm, yes but I don't understand how you are relating that to the topic of birth control, it's original intent and whether we are to use them. (scratching head). |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 18:04:43 GMT -5
I want to state something here.
I did not mean this post to offend anyone. I researched, found out some interesting information and wanted to discuss with my fellow brother and sisters in hopes to learn something that I didn't know before. In no way am I condeming someone to hell, telling them to continue to have children at the risk of losing life or to continue until they have an army of their own. Also, I am not asking anyone which method of birth control they are using.
I don't want to turn this post into a do you play soccer, celebrate Christmas, Halloween, Easter, wear tampons etc. Again, this was just a topic of discussion. If you don't believe it is wrong, then fine let's discuss. If you believe it is wrong, fine, then let's discuss but please lets not turn this post into something in which it was not intended.
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 18:26:49 GMT -5
Quick question, and not meaning this in a gross way, but do you ladies use tampons or pads? Ummm, yes but I don't understand how you are relating that to the topic of birth control, it's original intent and whether we are to use them. (scratching head). Tampons restrict the natural process. Many could argue that we shouldn't use tampons because anything restricting the body way to rid itself of impurities can cause harm to the body. and thus simply was a response to this: |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 18:39:34 GMT -5
I want to state something here. I did not mean this post to offend anyone. I researched, found out some interesting information and wanted to discuss with my fellow brother and sisters in hopes to learn something that I didn't know before. In no way am I condeming someone to hell, telling them to continue to have children at the risk of losing life or to continue until they have an army of their own. Also, I am not asking anyone which method of birth control they are using. I don't want to turn this post into a do you play soccer, celebrate Christmas, Halloween, Easter, wear tampons etc. Again, this was just a topic of discussion. If you don't believe it is wrong, then fine let's discuss. If you believe it is wrong, fine, then let's discuss but please lets not turn this post into something in which it was not intended. It is still a topic of discussion right? I don't see anything offensive in any post, nor am I myself offended. I (and can only speak for myself)am simply engaging in a discussion regarding Birth Control, and when was it ever ok to use or do things that had evil origins so to speak. I must say.. I don't use birth control. However i have had a "temporary fix" regarding it. I do believe that if we are going to have a genuine discussion, everyone is not going to be on the same side of the fence. I will choose the fence thats not being represented in the discussion. The why's of why, birth control has been used amongst saved individuals. Not those who are using it to abuse themselves with sexual immorality, but those who have genuine reasons behind why they have used it. I don't see where the direction of the post has changed. Even with my tampon question. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Apr 10, 2006 18:49:57 GMT -5
you are missunderstanding that post.
also, I don't want everyone to agree with my view. I want everyone to state how they feel if they choose to. Again, this is something I just learned on Saturday and therefore it shocked me and challenged my thoughts.
After a bit I will lock this post because my intent was honestly to find out information as to when did birth control become acceptable, the norm etc. considering the original intent.
I don't want to turn this into a discussion about when to have sex, etc. I honestly wanted to include this post in my files but what I will do is continue my online research on the matter.
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 18:52:11 GMT -5
It's ok. you still can do that. You do not have to lock the post. It's not that serious. IMHO
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Post by Nikkol on Apr 11, 2006 9:44:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it selfishness but rather that it's an instinct for many women to have a child, which isn't wrong.... This is seen throughout the bible and how it was always sad if someone couldn't bear....
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