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Post by kitty on Aug 23, 2007 13:27:57 GMT -5
Hello Guys,
Here is my take on the whole matter. Juanita Bynum and Weeks both need to step down and focus on themselves for a while. Not for a short time... But a LONG TIME!!!
And yes... I too believe that none of us knows what was going on between the two of them but I can say this... I'm sure that Juanita has some part to blame in the matter. Years ago I was told of a odd story that I brushed off...
A fan of Juanita Bynums told me about a case where Juanita and Weeks were having and arguement and he started to walk away from it. Juanita threw a cell phone at his head but missed. Weeks supposedly turned around shocked that she destroyed a cell phone.
At the time the story sounded strange...But now it has more merit.
Secondly Juanita Bynum suffered from violence in her first marriage. That person was also in ministry. Supposedly a pastor... Clearly SHE doesn't know how to choose a mate wisely.
Bottom line is that obviously she nor Weeks got the counseling that they needed in order to have a successful marriage the second time around.
It would have been to everyone's benefit if they had decided to stay our of the lime light for a few years and really worked on their marriage in private rather than promoting themselves as an example.
And yes... it does give the body of Christ a blow... Of that I'm really sad.
Too many of us are really poor examples of Christians... yet we are so quick to wear it on our sleeves to let everyone else know that we are better than they are...
Now all of those unsaved people in decent marriage will again say... YUP those Christians can't tell us anything about how treat one another and we had sex before marriage...
Many of us just need to go and sit down somewhere because we are doing more harm than good.
Kitty
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Post by Rachel2 on Aug 23, 2007 13:32:13 GMT -5
Amen Kitty.
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Post by Nikkol on Aug 23, 2007 13:48:37 GMT -5
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Post by anointedteacher on Aug 23, 2007 14:07:26 GMT -5
I agree...
True, we don't know what happen, but why would a bishop punch, choke, kick and stomp his wife. I know JBW never thought for a minute her marriage would turn out like this... I wonder if this marriage could be healed. They met to reconcile, to work things out. You know "us" women can cut a man up with our mouth, but should a man of God react by punching, choking, kicking and stomping and put his wife in the hospital. I can't imagine the emotional pain of failure in a marriage and not able to accomplish what she always wanted in a marriage. The meeting was set at the hotel to reconcile. Failure to come to agreement is probably worst than her physical pain of the attack. And now the embarrassment ofwhat was covered is now uncovered and no longer a secret. She is a woman of testimonies, and her ministry is based on her experience.
I pray that JBW receive healing and comfort in this situation and counseling from mature spiritual counselors, that would minister to her and walk her through this situation. I pray that true mature men of God would take TW and counsel in the thing of God and minister deliverance.
Can this marriage be saved? I know I would never go back to someone abusive.... I am not God and He can do all things.
AT
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Post by Nikkol on Aug 23, 2007 14:23:02 GMT -5
Additionally:
Evangelist Bynum will file charges against husband
By SAEED AHMED, D. AILEEN DODD
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/22/07
Popular Pentecostal evangelist Juanita Bynum told police Thursday that she intends to file charges against her estranged husband who allegedly attacked her in a parking lot early Wednesday.
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A spokesman with the Atlanta Police Department said Thursday that officers were making plans to meet with Bynum to investigate the case.
Rich Adthingys/AJC
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Juanita Bynum, shown preaching at Megafest 2006, reportedly was attempting to reconcile with her estranged husband Wednesday when he attacked her in a hotel parking lot.
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The preacher, whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, could not be reached for comment Thursday. Authorities said the evangelist, who has a home in the metro Atlanta area, had been whisked away by family as they decide what to do next to protect the preacher from her estranged husband Thomas W. Weeks III.
"She was pretty upset about the incident," said Ron Campbell, spokesman for the Atlanta Police Department. "At this point, she is at an undisclosed location trying to stay away from him."
Campbell said the couple was trying to reconcile at a restaurant in the Renaissance Concourse Hotel when their meeting went sour.
As the couple headed toward parking lot about 4 a.m. Wednesday, they got into a physical fight.
"He began to choke her, he pushed her down and started kicking on her and stomping her," Campbell said. "The bellman of the hotel actually witnessed the incident and pulled Mr. Weeks off of her."
Campbell said she was "bruised up and battered," and had "purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."
The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene.
Police found out about the fray from a staff member at Piedmont Hospital, where Bynum was taken for a checkup.
Bynum apparently left the hospital before police could take photos of her cuts and bruises. Her sister, Tina Culpepper, took some snapshots and later handed them over to police.
Campbell said he was uncertain whether this was a first-time incident of domestic violence between the couple. A felony charge would only be brought if Bynum had serious injuries and had to be hospitalized for an extended period of time, he said.
Meanwhile, the phone lines at Weeks' and Bynum's metro area church Global Destiny International Center of Duluth were temporarily disconnected. An executive minister of the church empire Global Destiny International said he had "no comment," about the incident or pending investigation.
A popular Pentecostal evangelist, Bynum lives in Hempstead, N.Y., but her administrative offices are in Waycross. She is open about her past, freely talking about sex and being on welfare, hospitalized with a mental breakdown, divorced and spiritually broken.
Once a homemaker, a hairdresser and a flight attendant, Bynum's big break came when Bishop T.D. Jakes invited her to speak at one of his conferences several years ago. Her ministry took off a couple of years later after she gave her unrehearsed "No More Sheets" sermon on breaking free of sexual promiscuity at a singles event.
Since then, she has parlayed her tough-love evangelism into a one-woman industry, writing several best-selling books, recording inspirational CDs and preaching to millions through televised sermons.
She has been a regular at Megafest, Jakes' four-day festival of worship, music, education and praise that drew thousands every year it took place in Atlanta.
Her 2002 wedding to Weeks, who started the Global Destiny churches nationwide, was televised and, according to media reports, featured a gown with a bodice covered in crystals and a 7.76-carat diamond ring.
— Staff researcher Nisa Asokan contributed to this report.
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Post by anointedteacher on Aug 23, 2007 14:44:40 GMT -5
Kitty.... JBW and TW gave that testimony at their conference teach me how to love.... That fight led to a separation. They got into a heated fight.... they didn't reveal what the fight was about, but how they reconciled.
This is what I got from JBW myspace.....
Dr. Juanita Bynum.... I am currently recovering from all of my injuries and resting well. There are so many great things happening for me in my future, and so much to look foward to concerning my destiny, this too shall pass. The bible says in Proverbs 4:25 "let you eyes look right on with fixed purpose and let your gaze be straight before you."
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Post by anointedteacher on Aug 23, 2007 14:53:13 GMT -5
Today the Associated Press is reporting the severe beating of Reverend Juanita Bynum by the hands of her husband Reverend Thomas Weeks III. The couple who has been separated for some time now, met up in an Atlanta hotel restaurant in hopes of reconciliation. Something went horribly wrong and a fight between the estranged couple took place in the hotel garage resulting in Reverend Bynum becoming battered and bruised. As of now no charges have been brought up on Reverend Weeks.
Reverend Juanita Bynum is the author of many books and is highly known for her powerful conferences that call for women to empower themselves trough God.
Sadly, Reverend Bynum is not the only case of domestic violence within Christian homes and church leaders. Just recently was the case of the Tennessee mother who shot and killed her pastor husband after alleged years of domestic abuse. She spent seven months in jail and was released this month.
In churches across America many women hide the fact that they are being abused at home. Often the abuser is their pastor spouse. These men take scripture out of context and use it to control their wives. When the Bible speaks of a woman being submissive to her husband, it does not mean for the woman to fetch his slippers, cook him a meal or engage in sex with him on demand. God does not want women to be a slave to their husbands. God's intention was for a married couple to fulfill each other's needs. Eve was created to be Adam's help meet, not his slave. God wants us in marriage to be a compliment of one another. No one spouse is more supreme than the other. Married people should be able to maintain their individuality but blend together as a team.
Somewhere along the way, abusive men of God have forgotten that marriage is a collaboration of two people joined together to over come problems in life and a shared commitment of deep love.
As for Juanita Bynum, no one knows what happened in her marriage but her and God. She will have to go through the healing of her body, spirit and emotions. Reverend Weeks III will have to face the consequences of his actions and hopefully he too will be able to heal over time and get the help he needs.
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Post by kanyon on Aug 23, 2007 15:38:14 GMT -5
Accountability...
I for one enjoyed her ministry a while back. Things seemed to be going well for her as she came under the covering of T G Jakes.
It became obvious that she went on her own (after tasting 'success') and as she testified herself was relegated to the backside of the desert and preaching in storefronts again.
She must have made peace with Jakes because she publicly went on a stage that he was at and confessed to her walking out from his covering.
She then declared that never again would she go back to the storefronts. I realized then that the 'confession' was not real and that she just missed the limelight and the money.
Not long after, we hear of their divorces and their subsequent $1,000,000. marriage.
What was missing was the cry of David, "A broken and a contrite heart oh Lord, thou will not despise."
Very sad, nothing to rejoice about but to pray that she will have a true revelation of Jesus.
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Post by Nikkol on Aug 23, 2007 15:46:40 GMT -5
She then declared that never again would she go back to the storefronts. Wow....... She wouldn't have survived during biblical days since they just went house to house..... no cathedrals back then..... |
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 23, 2007 15:54:13 GMT -5
you know what I hare about this crap? It casts a bad view on the Body of Christ as a whole, and creates separation between men and women, makes people pick sides and COMPLETELY ignores the MILLIONS of men of God who are good husbands, fathers, brothers, friends. church leaders, and excellent representatives of the Lord Jesus Christ in their communities.
And that is my 5 minute rant.
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 23, 2007 16:34:58 GMT -5
Sadly, domestic violence is nothing nice. Yet, in some states the state will press charges on both parties. As for this situation..we really don't know what happened. Yet, the answers are there.
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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 23, 2007 16:52:21 GMT -5
Nikkol, This would be an example of my "FREE WILL" point of view that we were discussing in the Marriage Forum on Divorce in Christian Marriages.
One the people who are mentoring are not honest and do not have the ability to tell anyone how to have a good marriage.....because most people haven't experienced good marriages as marriages are a work in progress because people change, times change, thoughts and perspective changes....
I am certain Bynum and Weeks had every intention on making their marriage work but the reality of life is that people change and there is a Choice and sacrifice that one has to make in order for marriages to work......
As of this day Bynum and Weeks both have choices to make are they going to overcome the embarrassment and ridicule of their actions and try to make it work or are they going to divorce...
Free will is given in all of our lives and it is something that cannot be overlooked in marriage.....because you have two individual people trying to come together to become one and that is difficult. |
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Post by anointedteacher on Aug 23, 2007 17:21:05 GMT -5
I wonder what was the real motive TW had for marrying JBW. As a couple posts stated, they got marry too soon... JBW was at the height of her ministry and everything was going well. I never even heard of TW before. I wonder did he really love her or did he used her to make his name great. I was a little puzzle about one of his testimony of what he was going through before they were married. His ex-wife has left, and he was so hard up for sex that he try to get her back, he was at the point of compromising. Was JBW so desperate to be marry, knowing she not getting younger. Did she want to be marry so bad, that she overlook warning signs and gave a deaf ear to the voice of the Lord.
Since it out in the open, I believe she will pursue a divorce.
AT
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 23, 2007 17:38:38 GMT -5
Dont speculate. Pray.
Dont wonder. Pray
Dont cast dispersions. Pray
Dont Gossip. Pray.
We need understand how this is going to affect th Body of Christ. Its all over the internet. Its all over the airwaves. Every " Urban " afternoon talk radio is talking about this tradegy. Its bringing a reporach on the name of Jesus.
PRAY PRAY PRAY !!!!
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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 23, 2007 18:30:48 GMT -5
GDD, I understand that we need to pray.....
However you asked the question how is this going to affect the Body of Christ?
I believe this should be a wake up call to the Body of Christ in regards to marriage because after JBW messages regarding marriage and what to look for in a marriage we (the body of Christ) begin to over spiritualize marriage and the meaning of marriage and start marrying people based upon the perceived notion of destiny.....
By no means am i saying that your spouse is not connected to your destiny.....that is not what I am saying at all; however during the period of JBW singleness; her messages were so detailed with instructions on what one should be looking for in a marriage that we (the body of Christ) begin to look for everything else in our mates besides the one true thing that is going to sustain your marriage and that is LOVING your spouse.....
I had girlfriends in which we all attended the Woman thou art loosed conf and some of them married men right after they met because a word was given and they fasted, prayed and fell all out on the floor with each other before the Lord waiting on confirmation.......and today many of those girls are left battered, beaten, hurt and single parents all because the searched for marriage based on a theory and not practicality.....and praticality with the guidance of the Holy Ghost....
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