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Post by Bee on Feb 24, 2006 14:49:44 GMT -5
Nikkol we are not talking about a man who is doing his best or has done his best and then due to illness or unforeseen circumstances cannot keep doing that-his heart is in the right place. We are talking about men who refuse to reflect the order of God and God's order is never for an able bodied man who can work to permanently run the house -the bible says that it is the woman who is to primarily care for the home. Many women are struggling because their husbands refuse to take up their roles including refusing to lead and be provider. Maybe we would all benefit from hearing from someone whose husband actually does not want to work and is a full time housewife and has been from the day they got married  I agree with u Jasmine i too sometimes find some men's egoes hard to deal with-some of them have made it too much of a god to the point that u have to tread on eggshells around them almost like ladies and their emotions. *sigh* |
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Post by Giants DO Die ns on Feb 24, 2006 15:15:01 GMT -5
The man is to be the prophet priest and king of his home. Discuss. which means he's supposed to work. and if he does not work..He does not EAT! The topic of discussion is not whether a man should work. A man should work. Thats not really a point of debate. The question was what is the mans ROLE. God designed the man to be the prophet, priest and king of the home... Discuss. |
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Post by keita on Feb 24, 2006 15:23:38 GMT -5
LOLOL! Get 'em Giants! I heard the authority of that right through my computer screen!  Could it be that part of a man's role is to bring order? |
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Post by Giants DO Die ns on Feb 24, 2006 15:54:38 GMT -5
LOLOL! Get 'em Giants! I heard the authority of that right through my computer screen! Could it be that part of a man's role is to bring order? That falls under the responsibility of the kingship position that a man takes in the home. Continue to discuss... please... |
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Post by Jasmine nsi on Feb 24, 2006 16:46:10 GMT -5
LOLOL! Get 'em Giants! I heard the authority of that right through my computer screen! Could it be that part of a man's role is to bring order? I don't receive that authoritive tone! ;D |
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Post by keita on Feb 24, 2006 16:53:00 GMT -5
LOL@ Jas! Hear it in the spirit, sis, in the spirit! LOL! But seriously, as a woman of power, I do truly appreciate a man of authority. Makes submitting so much easier and brings such a balance to the proceedings...  My Brothers! How 'bout y'all lead this one? |
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Post by C nsi on Feb 24, 2006 16:59:40 GMT -5
Maybe we would all benefit from hearing from someone whose husband actually does not want to work and is a full time housewife and has been from the day they got married *sigh* GDD forgive me but I just wanted to answer Bee's inquiry. Bee I am such a woman. I am married and I work 60 hours a week and spend 15 hours commuting to my job so I could support my family while my husband who is able to, but doesn't work because he chooses not to. I am missing out on my child's life because I'm hardly ever there and when I am, I still gotta hold down the cooking,cleaning etc. no matter how tired I may be. It's always felt unbalanced, and I realize that's cause God created me to be a help to my husband not to do the whole job. |
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Post by lanl ns on Feb 24, 2006 17:10:23 GMT -5
Maybe we would all benefit from hearing from someone whose husband actually does not want to work and is a full time housewife and has been from the day they got married *sigh* GDD forgive me but I just wanted to answer Bee's inquiry. Bee I am such a woman. I am married and I work 60 hours a week and spend 15 hours commuting to my job so I could support my family while my husband who is able to, but doesn't work because he chooses not to. I am missing out on my child's life because I'm hardly ever there and when I am, I still gotta hold down the cooking,cleaning etc. no matter how tired I may be. It's always felt unbalanced, and I realize that's cause God created me to be a help to my husband not to do the whole job. I really don't mean to get in yo bidnez, But sweetie why are you cooking and cleaning if your husband is at home all day? |
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Post by lanl ns on Feb 24, 2006 17:14:59 GMT -5
But seriously, as a woman of power, I do truly appreciate a man of authority. Makes submitting so much easier and brings such a balance to the proceedings... Amen Sis Keita ain't nothing like a man exerting His God Given Authority!!!!! I can submit to a man who is in order............. If a man or husband is out of order do we still have to submit to them? |
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 24, 2006 17:36:41 GMT -5
Side Note: There's actually many articles that one can read in reference to men being "househusbands"..
I would like to see some statistics of how many women are struggling because their husbands are refusing to work vs women who aren't struggling although their husbands aren't working.
LANL: We are held responsible for the Word of God. Therefore, we should submit to our husband as long as what he's saying isn't sin.
GDD: That's what it is, the king/priest of the home and to love his wife.
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Post by Beck on Feb 24, 2006 17:50:00 GMT -5
Maybe we would all benefit from hearing from someone whose husband actually does not want to work and is a full time housewife and has been from the day they got married *sigh* GDD forgive me but I just wanted to answer Bee's inquiry. Bee I am such a woman. I am married and I work 60 hours a week and spend 15 hours commuting to my job so I could support my family while my husband who is able to, but doesn't work because he chooses not to. I am missing out on my child's life because I'm hardly ever there and when I am, I still gotta hold down the cooking,cleaning etc. no matter how tired I may be. It's always felt unbalanced, and I realize that's cause God created me to be a help to my husband not to do the whole job. Well sister thats not what we are talking about in all honesty... I couldn't live with myself as a man allowing my wife to carry such a burden and I don't get up and help her. If he can't work its one thing and praise God for your inner strength and ability to carry the load, but if he is just sitting home watching the kids grow up...its a whole different ball game. However you desire to do your thing its up to you all, but sister don't let the man get lazy and comfy where he is, a wife should motivate and encourage her spouse to be the best he can be in Christ and as a man period. The scripture says that Husbands should love his wife as Christ loves the church... How did Christ love the church??? #1 his love was sacrificial, #2 he love was unconditional, #3 his love santified... 1st Corinthians 13 gives a wonderful explanation of what true love is, and if we as husbands or wifes get anything less than that...we should really question our spouses. People use the scripture about working and eating out of context and think it refers to a mans role, thats not what Paul was referring too, but the principle can still be applied that we should work for the things we want. What you should know is the bible says that a man that doesn't take care of his home is worse than an unbeliever! Its not just your job to work, cook, clean, while he sits around and doesn't help.... thats not love and if thats what he thinks he role is in Christ he needs to read the good book over again, and if you feel that this is the only way he will respect and love you if you go out of your way like this for him, then you need to read the good book again for further clarity on your roles in marriage...(please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way, if it doesn't apply then thank God). I would hate for you all to miss out on the truth blessings and benefits of marriage because of misunderstanding the scriptures or because of the need to please... you continue to do your part as a very supportive wife, but pray that your husband gets his part together also. I also want to add that its encouraging to hear that your not holding what he does against him, but you still press on and love unconditionally. Most women get tudes and respond the wrong way to situations that are challenging instead of praying that the stronghold is removed... stay encouraged... |
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Post by Giants DO Die ns on Feb 24, 2006 18:52:30 GMT -5
But seriously, as a woman of power, I do truly appreciate a man of authority. Makes submitting so much easier and brings such a balance to the proceedings... Amen Sis Keita ain't nothing like a man exerting His God Given Authority!!!!! I can submit to a man who is in order............. If a man or husband is out of order do we still have to submit to them? As long as that man is not telling you to do anything that is against the Word of God, endangering your life or is flat out sin.. Yes you do... I heard a man of God say this. Women come to my office weekly and tell me I cannot submit to my husband because he isnt saved or he doesnt act right. He says thats not true you have the POWER to submit you just choose NOT to. The women say how can I submit to this man. He says you submit to your BOSS every day. You boss says make me a cup of coffee you do it. He tellls you when to come to work, he tells you what time to go home, he tells you when you can eat. You boss might be a homosexual or a child molester but you submit to him and his rules EVERY day. He says now why are you able to submit to this crazy boss who sometimes yells at you and drives you nuts. You get PAID thats why. So does money have more power to help you submit than the GOD that you say you love  hmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Post by Giants DO Die ns on Feb 24, 2006 18:53:37 GMT -5
Aint this the MENS fellowship ?? LOL |
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Post by Jasmine nsi on Feb 24, 2006 23:30:12 GMT -5
Don't be trying to kick us out!  lol Ya'll may be the head, but its the neck (woman) that controls it.  |
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Post by jasmine nsi on Feb 24, 2006 23:33:37 GMT -5
LOL@ Jas! Hear it in the spirit, sis, in the spirit! LOL! But seriously, as a woman of power, I do truly appreciate a man of authority. Makes submitting so much easier and brings such a balance to the proceedings... My Brothers! How 'bout y'all lead this one? LoL, keita I was just jiving. |
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