Paula & Randy White divorcing???

[livinganewlife]

electladynb said:

LANL: Well, let's look at scripture:

1 timothy 3
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

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I think you answered your own question. ;D

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Thanks Nikkol it always help to have scripture back up

[krazeeboi]

If that other spouse aint dead.. You DONT remarry. Leaders getting divorced two and three times AINT GOD !!!!! Period.

Tell the truth and shame the devil!

[krazeeboi]

A lot of what some of you are calling "strong" is really "headstrong," and there is a difference. A wife is called to have a meek, quiet, and teachable spirit. We don't preach that any more, but it's Bible. Does that mean that husbands are allowed to run all over their wives and run their wives' lives? Of course not. As Beck stated, a truly strong woman knows how to submit, and a truly strong man knows how to cover.

I think the Joyce Meyer example is a good one. On several occasions, she has made it explicitly clear that her ministry is under her husband's guidance and authority. Does that make her any "less strong"? Of course not. If anything, it's just the opposite. I think another good example here might be Bishop Alfred and Co-Pastor Susie Owens.

Anointedteacher makes a good point, though. I always thought that Weeks was too docile of a man to handle a woman like Juanita (and I'm not just speaking about ministry either, but just the type of woman she is in general), and being that her ministry was already running full steam ahead when they got married, that put a certain spin on things. I think Weeks was more ready to share in her limelight than Juanita was ready to step out of the limelight a bit in order to learn submission.

The Randy and Paula White situation is somewhat similar, but in this case, they both built a mega ministry together. However, when it was clear that Paula was taking off in her own ministry (and I still don't really understand why, but that's another topic), it seemed that Randy's response was just to go ahead and do his own thing as well, except it was much less visible.

As far as women's ministry to other women, I'm all for that and I believe that it's biblical. However, that ministry should ultimately be submitted to the husband. I don't think anyone would dispute that women offer something unique to other women as far as ministry goes, but that's not the point. The point is that that ministry (for a wife) needs to be under the covering and submission of her husband. And it is the wife's duty to submit her ministry to her husband's authority, not about a man being "strong enough" to handle a "strong" woman, which, to me, sounds as if it's all the man's responsibility and that he needs to check his wife, but once he does that, there will be something else to complain about. Y'all feminists are a trip (and I ain't talkin' about you unless it's you).

[anointedteacher]

krazeeboi said:

If that other spouse aint dead.. You DONT remarry. Leaders getting divorced two and three times AINT GOD !!!!! Period.

Tell the truth and shame the devil!

I never been married, but if I married someone that turn out to be a nut head ... I don't worry about a man beating me, I scared a few in my pass . I never been hit... but have taught a few young men a lesson ::)and came close of breaking their hand (before salvation). If I have to get a divorce... and ran into the perfect man, I will get marry again ... if it really wrong, (I don't believe it is) I know how to repent.

Period!!!

[Beck]

anointedteacher said:

krazeeboi said:

If that other spouse aint dead.. You DONT remarry. Leaders getting divorced two and three times AINT GOD !!!!! Period.

Tell the truth and shame the devil!

I never been married, but if I married someone that turn out to be a nut head ... I don't worry about a man beating me, I scared a few in my pass . I never been hit... but have taught a few young men a lesson ::)and came close of breaking their hand (before salvation). If I have to get a divorce... and ran into the perfect man, I will get marry again ... if it really wrong, (I don't believe it is) I know how to repent.

Period!!!

Thats something....

[giantsdodie]

This is the attitude that has us messed up now.

I dont care what the Word of God says regarding my life and regarding the rules for divorce and remarriage according to the Word of God.

Even if it is wrong I can just go a repent later.

Even if I steal I can go a repent later.

Even if I commit adultery I can go a repent later.

I can do what I want regardless of God's laws and instructions because I can repent later.

Be not deceived God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

SOME of what we are seeing is reapin !!!!

[krazeeboi]

AMEN and AMEN!!!

[atruewomenofgod]

What the devil is going on? Not Paula and Randy too! tell me it isn't so. atrue

[anointedteacher]

giantsdodie said:

This is the attitude that has us messed up now.

I dont care what the Word of God says regarding my life and regarding the rules for divorce and remarriage according to the Word of God.

Even if it is wrong I can just go a repent later.

Even if I steal I can go a repent later.

Even if I commit adultery I can go a repent later.

I can do what I want regardless of God's laws and instructions because I can repent later.

Be not deceived God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

SOME of what we are seeing is reapin !!!!

I don't think it is wrong.... There is a different between put away or separation and divorce.... We interpret the scripture differently. A divorced person is not under bondage... There is life after a divorce.

AT

[giantsdodie]

anointedteacher said:

giantsdodie said:

This is the attitude that has us messed up now.

I dont care what the Word of God says regarding my life and regarding the rules for divorce and remarriage according to the Word of God.

Even if it is wrong I can just go a repent later.

Even if I steal I can go a repent later.

Even if I commit adultery I can go a repent later.

I can do what I want regardless of God's laws and instructions because I can repent later.

Be not deceived God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

SOME of what we are seeing is reapin !!!!

I don't think it is wrong.... There is a different between put away or separation and divorce.... We interpret the scripture differently. A divorced person is not under bondage... There is life after a divorce.

AT

No disprect, but the scriptures are not subject to private interpretation. We are called to RIGHTFULLY divide the Word of Truth, not accept the truths we want to or are comfortable with.

You can choose to interpret it how you want but the scripture is clear.

"But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband (but if she does leave, let her remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not send his wife away." (1 Cor 7:10-11).

That is clear and straight forward. If you divorce your spouse the scripture says that THE LORD's command is that if you do you are to remain UNMARRIED or reconcile with your former spouse.

Might not be the popular view. But its the BIBLICAL view.

[keita]

PRAISE THE LORD, EVERYBODY!

I just wanted/had to say this... once again .

Acknowledging and then understanding the very clear and consistent difference between the bible's use of the words for "put away" and "divorce", in both its "Old" and "New" testaments, is absolutely critical to anyone's "RIGHTLY dividing the WORD" on this matter. Failure to make the same distinction between the two totally different terms, as scripture most definitely and always does, results in faulty interpretation and false teaching of God's Word regarding marital breakups and unscriptural bondage for His people...no matter which "side" we're taking in the issue.

[stillfocused]

I have not posted for various reasons. Yet, what has happened here with both marriages is very disheartening. I just wanted to say that Thomas Weeks had his own ministry and was preaching long before his union to Juanita Bynum Weeks. When I look at the state of those who stand visible on the front line..it saddens me to see so many marriages dissolve because of the pressure that comes with being married to men and women who are always in the spotlight. In the past few years the marriages of Fred Hammond, Natalie Cole, Marvin and Vicki Winians, and so many more have ended for one reason or another. Does that say that the ones who hear and speak to the nations and to us need to step back and allow someone to pour into them ? In old testament times a young man was not allowed to go to war for one year after he got married.

[Beulah5]

I agree with you Stillfocused. I wanted to carry on in the discussions that i personally do not believe that any ministry should come before one's spouse or marriage. Many couples cite the pressures of being in ministry for their break up inclusing long separation. The truth is if one is a married minister u dont need to attend every invite that u get and i believe that neither will the Holy Spirit.

We have a wrong impression when we feel that our mates should unduly sacrifice just because God's hand is upon us. I have studied great revivals, composers and champions of the past and yes it is very possible to be in the limelight or at the cutting edge of anything and still have a good relationship.

To me the public appearance of th anointing means nothing to me-are u spending time with and honouring your mate? what have ur children got to say about you etc

Besides i dont understand how God can call somebody to do something but not call the spouse either-He either calls both of you or neither. Fine u may have different roles/functions but it is one ministry.

Marriage is for life there is no get out clause or option apart from adultery-now if there is violence or abuse of any sort then of course separation is by all means necessary but also if one has to cancel everything and go and sit down for 2, 3 or 5 years to get the love back then so it has to be.

Even in the case of adultery God's ideal would be forgiveness and reconciliation for the couple. Divorce is a very terrible thing for those involved, for their families and have far reaching consequences.

I do not believe that separate directions shd be reason for separation though.

[keita]

I do not believe that separate directions shd be reason for separation though.

I think "separate directions" is the very definition of "unevenly yoked" and is a really good reason not to marry in the first place.

But if folk do, to MY SISTER, the wife, I say, that is why women of GOD are divinely and uniquely empowered by GOD to submit to their husbands.

But remember what Jesus told the woman at the well because the problem just might be that he's still "not your husband" even though YOU married him!

(Uh-oh! Keita just preached to herself. )

I truly believe that within the Church there is still such a lack of cohesive understanding about God's loving provision of and instructions regarding legal divorce and Jesus' teachings/fulfillment (but not destroying) of that law.

Yet I believe that all of God's people share a desire to get, live and especially teach it right.

So I'm just glad He keeps us talking about it.

[Beulah5]

I see what you are saying but what i am talking about are not people who never had the same direction in the first place (cause that is a whole other case). Relationships and marriage takes work any couple no matter even if they are God's will for you and u have the same ministry and interests you still need to work on your marriage.

I do not believe that if someone is married to a believer that the Spirit of the Lord will cause or desire that one's service to God shd harm ur wife and children.

Many preachers are tailing it all over the country but not taking care of their family which as far as Bee is also concerned is worse than an infifdel because though u may be taking care of them materially to bankrupt ur children and spouse of emotional support and all things that ur presence brings is not taking care of ur family.

The church will continue to run without individuals- as a preacher the church would not collapse if u do not attend every revival and every meeting. Balancing our priorities on the principles of honour is God's will.

Divorce is terrible and is the number 2 problem (number 1 being sin) for most of the brokeness in society. Nevermind the spouse but the child who is left damaged because of this event is a terrible thing. Apparently divorce affects about 200 people every time a couple break up so i am sorry if to me God's will is that we rather not break up even if adultery has been commited.

Forgiveness, tenderness, reconciliation should be the avenues we reach for-i know it is not always easy but if Christ Jesus does live in us then He will give us the strength.

Anyway you are talking to someone who does not believe that people should get married just so they can be happy