Millions More Movement

[ybrown]

Is anyone going to participate in the 10th annniversary of the Million Man March (now known as the Millions More Movement)?

Why or why not?

Should Christians even participate if the program includes both Muslim and Christian prayers?

[livinganewlife]

Well Well Well, IMHO I see nothing wrong about attending the Million March Movement. However, I believe the problem occurs when Christians embrace the Muslim Doctrine and beliefs.

Christians are to stand for Christ no matter what. PERIOD. POINT BLANK. THE BOTTOM LINE IS JESUS!!!

Does that mean that Christians cannot listen to Louis Farrakhan, of course not Minister Farrakhan is versed in the Koran as well as the Holy Bible and Minister Farrakhan intelligence is higher than most leaders in Christendom, he just does not identify Christ as his personal Savior and Lord.

Personal Story: I attended the Million Man March and it was so uplifting and encouraging for me. I waited for the day of Atonement for my Brothers, and in some cases I am still waiting.

Now being where I am today and knowing what I know today, I will not attend the Commemorative but I will listen to Farrakhan's speech on CSPAN and may buy the tape ....

[ybrown]

Living, thank you for that. I wasn't sure what I should do. I prayed on it and I know its the right thing to do in order to reflect Christ to the attendees. Your response was just a confirmation.

[Jasmine nsi]

I have a Question and maybe you all can help answer it?

What is exactly accomplished by marching to washington dc? Beside the fact of exercise, and maybe some "fellowship"..but what is accomplished through the marches?

[Jasmine]

Posting twice...people dont respond to you when your not signed in.

I have a Question and maybe you all can help answer it?

What is exactly accomplished by marching to washington dc? Beside the fact of exercise, and maybe some "fellowship"..but what is accomplished through the marches?

[livinganewlife]

Jas I signed in to answer this question, you have hipped me to a new secret

Any who, it is not exactly a March, it is called a march because I can only assume that during the Civil Rights movement the only way blacks got recognized was through Mass Marches and Demonstrations.

People are not walking around the Lincoln Memorial or the Washington Monument "moving step by step" there are several speakers throughout the day who offer prayers and encouragement to the AA race.

There was this young man from Nashville who spoke at the Million Man march who was so on target until it was not funny. This brother had to be no more than 11. He was awesome.

There was also entertainment various artist performed, and then there was the pledge and the "Day of Atonement" for our brothers took place.

I can't explain it all but it was a beautiful thing. As we were driving to DC you kept hearing conflicting reports about how many people were in attendance at the March.

But I venture to say that over 1,000,000 people got together that day WITHOUT any Violence or any negativity.

It was a glorious day which really made me proud of my people and Minister Farrakhan.

So Jas there is not a lot of walking because it was too crowded but there was ALOOOOOTTTT of Standing, but it did not bother me one bit. Of course I was early 20's and buck wild college student with a purpose.. ;D

[Jasmine]

Another question...How can their be true atonement and restoration of " our brothers" without the mention, acknowledgement, and acceptance of Jesus?

however back to the marching.. I believe thats where we got it backwards. Yes we are seen and maybe even "heard", however where is the action? What was accomplished?

I sure their were probally over 1 million brothers and i applaud each of them for making the very effort to get off the seat of do nothing..however..how many returned home and sat back down on that seat?

i believe that is my question. What was obtained at the march, that you would turn and work towards the greater good of AA obtaining equality here in america.

[keita]

jasmine said:

...How can their be true atonement and restoration of " our brothers" without the mention, acknowledgement, and acceptance of Jesus?

Imho, there can't be.

I believe that without Christ, atonement and restoration, both personal and collective, is impossible for everyone. And given what I believe to be the unique scriptural and spiritual position of Black people, any other attempted remedy, no matter how well intentioned, can only, has always, and will continue to result in, at best, a "form of godliness".

[lanl ns]

jasmine said:

Another question...How can their be true atonement and restoration of " our brothers" without the mention, acknowledgement, and acceptance of Jesus?

however back to the marching.. I believe thats where we got it backwards. Yes we are seen and maybe even "heard", however where is the action? What was accomplished?

I sure their were probally over 1 million brothers and i applaud each of them for making the very effort to get off the seat of do nothing..however..how many returned home and sat back down on that seat?

i believe that is my question. What was obtained at the march, that you would turn and work towards the greater good of AA obtaining equality here in america.

Jas I agree with you, as I stated I have waited on the day of atonement for my brothers and in some cases still waiting.

Truthfully, there is no atonement of Sins without Jesus Christ but to atone for the wrong that have been done to the women and children of the AA race can occur by whatever means necessary.

In order for me to forgive my father because he walked out on me does not mean he has to come to me Saved and Sanctified in order for me to forgive him. He has to come humble and broken in his heart to ask for my forgiveness.

I understand from a Christian stand point that yes that would be ideal, however we can not exclude our people because they do not accept our religion.

just because Pentecost works for me, does not mean that I can not accept my Lutheran sister over here next to me. Or if my Lutheran sister has done something wrong that does not mean I can not accept her apology.

I personally know men who went back to their cities and stopped selling drugs, stopped the violence and they are now productive citizens of our community.

Are they all in church on Sunday NO, but was an impact made in their lives for the better YES!!!!

I can not knock Farrakhan and what he has done with the 1,000,000 Man March because I have yet to see a leader in Christendom do the same thing. Most Pastors want a Multi Million Dollar edifice and could care less about seeing 1,000,000 black men coming together to repent of their sins.

[lanl ns]

One more thing; at least Farrakhan was not out of order Biblically at least he started his movement by trying to get the HEAD in order First and not these Mega Conferences that started out by Loos _ _g WOMEN

[keita]

lanl said:

One more thing; at least Farrakhan was not out of order Biblically at least he started his movement by trying to get the HEAD in order First and not these Mega Conferences that started out by Loos _ _g WOMEN

GOOOD Point, Sis LANL!

[Nikkol]

This reminds me of a saying in which states that just because the end result is good, the ends don't justify the means.

One thing that is important is that if people aren't coming together in the name of the Lord, whether they came together or not will only make a temporary difference.

A scripture came to my mind:

Amos 3:3
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

The sound of many people coming together for a common cause sounds all well and good, naturally. However, I believe that everything that happens in the physical has a spiritual aspect as well. What is the spiritual aspect of coming together, not in the name of the Lord but in the name of a cause that isn't centered around Christ? What is the spiritual aspect of allowing oneself to be around while prayers are being offered in the name of allah, etc.?

Of course there is a difference between a lutheran and pentecostal or Baptist and an apostolic coming together vs a Christian and a Muslim are totally two different things. In the first two examples they both believe in the one true and living God, which is not what a Muslim believes.

Well, I do think that Man power and Promise Keepers bring a lot of men together.... at the same time, it isn't difficult to see why it is that men (or women for that matter) aren't coming in force like the Million ______ March. We know that "...strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. "

It's nice that people want to come together. At the same time we know that it's what we do for Christ that will last.

A glorious day will always involve Christ.... for without Christ, there is no glory.

[krazeeboi]

Another example of Black symbolic politics that has replaced substantial politics that will result in the same thing 10 years ago: NOTHING.

[Jasmine]

My posts were driving up to the point krazeeboi has made. The end results are the same...Nothing.

Nikkol, amen..i couldn't have said it better.

[Beulah5]

I agree totally with you livinganewlife and your approach to these things.

Nikkol and co i disagree with the any change that is not done in the name of the Lord is gonna be temporary because God does not work like that.

That would mean that every great person who God has used to change the course of history would have had to be a christian and that is simply not the case and will never be.

Although Christ is the fullness and the completion of all things God does still have a hand in world affairs and effects changes through people who are not even saved. God also gives a measure of favour to people who are not His yet because He is a good God who causes the sun to rise and set on both the righteous and unrighteous.

Look at Cyrus, Xerxes, Agrippa, Nebuchadnezar, Bob Geldof-Live8 etc to name a few-did God not use them?

The reality if we go further though is how many christians are there in true governmental positions these days?

None.

Is Bob Geldof a christian in leading the campaign for the cancellation of 3rd world debt? No.

Is he being used by God? In my opinion totally.